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RDP for iOS and Android: To what end does this serve?

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , bondsbw wrote

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    If you train for years at a career choice that has heavy competition and is on the verge of being pushed out by technology, why are you giving up when you face heavy competition and technology begins pushing your career out?

    Why should I be worried about poor choices you made?

    I made my choices.  I easily could have held a number of other majors.  I could easily have not tried to learn, not attempted to push myself.  But I resisted those temptations, on purpose, and my choices have earned me a career that shows much promise.

    First off this is not directed at you Bonds. You're comments just incite an observation that many people miss.

    It's not always about choices people make. Sometimes it's about a person's capabilities. I really hate it when these discussions exclude those with disabilities (both mental and physical), You also have to toss in those on the Aspergers/Autism spectrum. There are more and more folks being diagnosed as being in the spectrum every day.

    Also there are plenty of cases where people's circumstances just don't allow them to make the better choice. For example a smart, capable, driven youth who is college bound but ends up skipping college and getting a job to keep the roof over the heads of their siblings and cancer stricken single mom who has no heath insurance because she can't afford it.

    It's really simple: we're not all created equal nor do we all have equal opportunity. So what do we do with these folks who don't fit the limited world we envision? Kill them? This is where some factions of the US government, certain news channels, and certain political organizations are extremely myopic. In the end the cost to the economy and society of de-funding programs that help these individuals get an education and/or back into the workforce is by far greater than providing the hand up these people need IMO. It's not about these people being lazy nor overly abusing the system -- hell we see enough of that in banking and Wall Street already. It's about wasting our resources (these people) in the belief this will enrich us somehow (it's my money and I want it now!). If we can return these people to be productive members of society on terms that fit their capabilities then we all win.

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    ScanIAm

    , bondsbw wrote

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    While I agree with the sentiment of your post in general, I don't know about this.  Making an industry more efficient isn't a bad thing.  Business models rarely last for centuries, for this very reason, and I think most can agree that the world is a better place than it was a few centuries ago.

    Hmmm.  I'm not sure I agree with that last statement.  I agree with both sides of the argument, but let's get past the idea that having little computers in our pockets somehow improves the overall standard of life.  I'd argue that plumbing, sanitation, and modern healthcare practices did more to improve our lives than any other technology.

    The world is certainly more entertaining, now.

    Postal services screwed over the business model of private messengers.  Consumers owning their own vehicles screwed over the business model of the milkman.  The printing press screwed over the business model of scribes.  It hurts those people, but just like in the industry of software development, those who get hurt the most are the ones who fall behind the times.  Moral of the story:  Keep up.

    Software will open doors to easier and far more productive jobs to come about.

    And when some future nobel candidate invents software that can create code better, faster, and with less of those pesky 'bugs' you keep spending all your time on, I hope you are as pragmatic Smiley

    I remember when the IT crew felt so smug about how their jobs couldn't be offshored.  After all they dealt with hardware and you couldn't just move that out of the business...

    And then someone created 'tha cloud'.

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    Bass

    , Ray7 wrote

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    I wouldn't go as far as that. Office on the Mac is easily as bad as iTunes on Windows: resource-hungry, slow, and a UI not in keeping with the home OS. 

     

    Microsoft puts a lot more effort in making Office fit in with the OS X system then Apple does with iTunes. It doesn't LOOK like a Windows app.

    But unless you really need the strong (but actually, not perfect) MS Office compatibility, I don't really see the need for it. iWork is arguably better designed (for OS X) and far less expensive too, and has passable MS Office file format support. I feel like we are at the point that if Microsoft discontinued Office for Mac, it wouldn't matter much. Kind of like when Safari became popular and Microsoft stopped IE for Mac development.

    The difference though, iTunes is a "must" for iDevices, which is pretty damn annoying in my opinion. Sure, you can avoid buying such devices. Android devices use standard USB protocols and can be used with a variety of software.

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    Bass

    , Ray7 wrote

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    You make it sound as if IT is some elitist field that is very difficult to break into. That is not the case.

     

    I don't know how you got that impression. If anything, it's too easy to break into. We don't need the entire population getting their kicks over technology. It's not like we don't need journalists or musicians. So not just people are suffering, stuff like journalist integrity and the arts are as well.

    But you don't even need to care about this from an altruistic perspective. Any society where tons and tons of people end up unemployed and poor is eventually to come tumbling down through popular unrest. The end result is often not pretty.

    , bondsbw wrote

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    If you train for years at a career choice that has heavy competition and is on the verge of being pushed out by technology, why are you giving up when you face heavy competition and technology begins pushing your career out?

    Why should I be worried about poor choices you made?

    I made my choices.  I easily could have held a number of other majors.  I could easily have not tried to learn, not attempted to push myself.  But I resisted those temptations, on purpose, and my choices have earned me a career that shows much promise.

    Well I'm a technologist not because I was chasing the money, that's what I like. I don't want to be insensitive to people making 'poor choices' by trying to be productive members of society in other ways.

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    Bass

    cbae,

    I don't agree. The idea of "economies of scale" causes a lot of the wealth inequality because it favors large corporations over small businesses. The economies of scale in the software industry are completely messed up, because software has no real marginal cost. Thus any company who sells the most licenses can invest more money into development WHILE STILL undercutting everyone else on individual license costs WHILE STILL making a huge profit that mostly goes to megamillionares and billionares. I just defined Microsoft. Thus the broken software business model naturally favors and produces these huge entrenched megacorporations, so something like a Microsoft was inevitable.

    If you want to talk about your original point, it is kind of weird because RDP is not some kind of unique Microsoft-specific capability. The Microsoft RDP client will be yet another RDP client available to Android and iOS users. I feel like you must be somewhat unaware of the capabilities available on other platforms to act like this was some kind of horrible business decision. Pointless? Maybe. Horrible? Eh, not really. I don't know what else there is to add.

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