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    Ian2

    Went down to Bristol yesterday as was curious to see what the new Best Buy store was like (Best Buy is new to the UK) and noticed when I was in the Tablet section that they had some 32GB Galaxy Tabs going for half price.  I have managed to resist the new trench of tablet machines over the last 18 months or so* (no Silverlight) but couldn't resist what looked like an amazing bargain.

    I have to say that I am very impressed, if this is the state of things now then the bar is pretty high for Microsoft.  Highlights for me so far:

    • Smooth and simple UI & sweet form factor
    • Great marketplace experience (better search/categorisation than WP7?)
    • Wealth of Apps
    • SD Card support
    • A Sweet TV Remote app for my new 3D TV (yes I am a real geek)
    • Nice support in Apps for on board GPS (the free stuff is very high quality)
    • Very impresive UI for DNLA use (Might post more about this on my blog)

    Downers:

    • No Silverlight Support!
    • No upgrade path to Android v.Next
    • Hotmail support seems a little slow (browser based hotmail is fine)
    • Bespoke sync / library software (iTunes clone!!)

    Overall I am very impressed with the device and with Samsung in general (I have a Samsung 3D TV&BluRay which has impressed me even with its non-TV features).

    * Save for a brief flirtation with a cheap far east Android job

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    figuerres

    Yeah MS is way late in getting something out that has a chance to even compete.

     

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    Bas

    A wise man recenlty told me "If you want to win the game, change the rules." In that light, it's never too late to compete.

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    Ian2

    @Bas: Easier said than done but I think it is the only option left open - should be interesting.

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    vesuvius

    @Bas: I have been told by others wiser than me, that "bolting a stable door after the horse has bolted serves no purpose!". That said the rules for WP7 changed with the Nokia deal, they changed the rules there.

    I was in a tech shop recently and played around with a few tablets, and liked the Galaxy one the best. Only issue I have is the lack of 4G in the UK. As devices become even more powerful (I mean dual core mobile phones - honestly), I think the overall experience on these devices will be diminished, compared to 4G enabled mobile networks.

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    Ian2

    Phones with 4G and optional roll out screens would be a nice alternative.  We keep seeing demos of the rollout stuff so who knows?

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    Bass

    "No Silverlight Support!"

    I think I posted this before:

    http://jeffreystedfast.blogspot.com/2011/04/moonlight-on-android.html

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    Ian2

    @Bass:Yep like this direction but I want it all and I want it now (Silverlight with WP7 extensions for Android and a WP7 compatible marketplace on Android)

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    Bass

    @Ian2:
    Well, you better to get started then. Here is the code: https://github.com/mono/moon

    Tongue Out

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    Ian2

    @Bass:Trouble is I am already taking a big hit writing apps (!)  Someone else (ideally MS) should be sponsoring this on behalf of Silverlight platform developers.

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    Bass

    That's wishful thinking but I doubt it will happen. I'm not sure it makes business sense for Microsoft, unless WP7 becomes a total market failure.

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    Ian2

    @Bass:Yep, I'm resigned to the 'Global Silverlight' wish being just that.

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    Bass

    Well, I mean I wouldn't underestimate the Mono Project. I would expect this Android port to mature very fast if there is a lot of commercial demand for it.

     

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    fanbaby

    Ian2, my belief is it (global silverlight) will happen! When Microsoft will open dotnet up completely and announce it has no intention to sue re patents. As I see it the alternative from MS's POV is dotnet slowly dying. It might be superior to Java, but look at the ecosystem around Java.

    The funny thing is a few years ago it was all doom for the Java camp. Everyone was like: Java is old and done with. Then came something. I don't know what, Open sourcing it? Google?  but suddenly i feel Java much more valuable then dotnet (you might disagree).

    It's a new world and Microsoft still thinks the old rules apply. Closing Encarta didn't ring the right bell, i think Wink

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    contextfree`

    @fanbaby: Android, plus the emergence of better languages like Scala implemented on the JVM?

    I recently bought an Android phone for development purposes, but I can't say I'm a big fan yet. I find I keep going back to my Windows phone, but maybe as I learn to use Android better that will change. However, its more flexible platform does enable some app possibilities that WP still lacks, which is why I bought it.

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    Bass

    , contextfree` wrote

    @fanbaby: Android, plus the emergence of better languages like Scala implemented on the JVM?

    I recently bought an Android phone for development purposes, but I can't say I'm a big fan yet. I find I keep going back to my Windows phone, but maybe as I learn to use Android better that will change. However, its more flexible platform does enable some app possibilities that WP still lacks, which is why I bought it.

    I don't think Scala is really all that popular. Its got a lot of buzz because Twitter uses it. But I haven't seen it penetrate the "enterprise" just yet.

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    elmer

    I know that I must be missing something important and am becoming (already am?) a retro-grouch, but for the life of me, I can see no reason why I would want to part with my hard-earned for a tablet, and contribute to even more electronic waste once it is made obsolete in 6mth's time.

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    vesuvius

    @elmer: That's my position as well. Once they are as good as a Kindle, and I am forced to live somewhere smaller i.e. get rid of my books then I may consider one.

    As it is they are about the most obvious way of flushing $$ down a toilet (restroom for those that don't use such coarse langage) that I can see. Maybe if I could get a shared dataplan with my smartphone which is 2 gig a month, and they cost around £150 I might not mind wasting that much, but I wake up, go to work, get back home and have computing available to me all the while.

    I need to pop down to London and see what users are like rush hour on the tube, but the damn thing won't connect to the internet underground, so you may need to be able to download your newpaper (have a program do it for you) and then have offline access to it.

    Edinburgh is a bit like London,where getting the bus is quite normal and subsidised, so it is ridiculously expesive to park there so most people get the bus. In other "Northern"cities using public transport of looked upon as lack of personal advancement. the bus for me is the only time a tablet makes sense to me, especially if you want to read a book or play a game.

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