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    magicalclick

    I have been using HTC Surround WP7 for two years. And I made friends along the way. None of them cared to ask what my phone is (although I don't put my phone out during dinner, dinner is dinner). And now I got a Lumia 920, they say, nice phone and they have seen it in ads.

    I really got to say, finally getting friends saying it is a cool phone shows people's acceptance and awareness. I really glad Nokia makes such nice iconic phone and be an exclusive phone maker for WP platform. It really helped WP ecosystem a lot and I am grateful to it.

    I am grateful for HTC and Samsung early supports, but, Nokia really turned the ecosystem around.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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    Ian2

    I agree, I think there was a certain amount of 'standing on the shoulders of giants' as well as 'standing on  burning deck' which both helped things along.  That said, they have managed their use of Windows Phone and their marketing well and I take my hat off to them. 

    Still a long way to go though.

    What I have noticed is the Apple fanbois take an interest when they see I have a 920.  They usually ask to look at it and then make a big show of criticising it's weight, to which I reply 'Yes, it is a real man's phone all right'.

    How we all laugh.

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    cheong

    Btw, after using my Lumia 920 for a month, I'll say it still "needs more polishing", mostly in IE (no forward button and no Flash support, although I understand the Flash thing is not Microsoft's fault) and Office part (Lots of gliches here and there... For example, it's lame to make spreadsheet readonly simply because the worksheet is protected or contain VBA... these 2 combined makes it almost no value to put any effort to make it included in coperate workflow. I've had assumed things would integrate more smoothly within Microsoft, and Workflow integration could have been a strong point to push company's executives to move to WinPhones).

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    fanbaby

    , cheong wrote

    Btw, after using my Lumia 920 for a month, I'll say it still "needs more polishing", mostly in IE (no forward button and no Flash support, although I understand the Flash thing is not Microsoft's fault) and Office part (Lots of gliches here and there... For example, it's lame to make spreadsheet readonly simply because the worksheet is protected or contain VBA... these 2 combined makes it almost no value to put any effort to make it included in coperate workflow. I've had assumed things would integrate more smoothly within Microsoft, and Workflow integration could have been a strong point to push company's executives to move to WinPhones).

    So anything containing VBA doesn't work in WP or the online version of Office? Anyone has more details? WOW. Isn't this bigger then Silverlight biting the dust?

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    cheong

    Missed this thread...

    The problem I'm facing is that, in WP version of Office 2013, if the workbook contains VBA, all cells there will be automatically treated as read-only.

    The is known limitation in their FAQ section.

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    evildictait​or

    , fanbaby wrote

    *snip*

    So anything containing VBA doesn't work in WP or the online version of Office? Anyone has more details? WOW. Isn't this bigger then Silverlight biting the dust?

    Office Pro Plus in Office 365 is the same Office bits as Office 2010, so any VBA development you've done that works with Office 2010 today will continue to work in Office 365.

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    PaoloM

    Are you really going to let your life be dictated by fact checkers?

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    Harlequin

    , PaoloM wrote

    Are you really going to let your life be dictated by fact checkers?

    14.7% of people do. I read it on Wikipedia.

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    Harlequin

    I was hoping to get a 920, but the phone contracts up here in Canada are almost criminal.

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    MikeInOhio

    , Harlequin wrote

    I was hoping to get a 920, but the phone contracts up here in Canada are almost criminal.

    I could not talk myself into an AT&T contract to get a 920... People tend to think the hardware is a "fail" for lower than expected sales while the carriers are pricing high end smartphones (contracts) out of a lot of folks budgets.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    I believe he was talking about the Windows Phone and Web editions and not the desktop products. WP & Web don't support macros.

    If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
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    dentaku

    Canadians (not me because I've never owned a cellphone) pay more than almost anyone else in the world.
    Rogers only just got HSPA in my area after being stuck with Edge for so long and there's obviously no word on LTE. Why in the world did Rogers get a 6 month exclusive on the Lumia 920?

    On the other hand they FINALLY offer the Lumia 920 in colours other than black.
    You can special order the white, yellow and red now.


    , Harlequin wrote

    I was hoping to get a 920, but the phone contracts up here in Canada are almost criminal.

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    magicalclick

    @DeathByVisualStudio: yeah, I am not sure how Office 365 has anything to do with WP. But imo, WP naturally cannot do fso and domain db, thus, doing VBA on those is impossible. I am not sure if this is why they don't support VBA to avoid confusion in what can be done using VBA.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , magicalclick wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio: yeah, I am not sure how Office 365 has anything to do with WP. But imo, WP naturally cannot do fso and domain db, thus, doing VBA on those is impossible. I am not sure if this is why they don't support VBA to avoid confusion in what can be done using VBA.

    I've built data collection spreadsheets in the past that contain macros but the macros were only used on the desktop after the data was collected. Fortunately the collectors were using laptops so there was no issue. Ideally some would have preferred a mobile device like a phone. In that case the spreadsheet would be read-only on the phone even though all the user needs to do is enter data. I hope they allow this someday for quick & dirty mobile data collection without having to split-up the spreadsheet into two workbooks. I'm curious how the Office mobile competitor apps handle this? If I have some time I'll run some tests.

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    magicalclick

    @DeathByVisualStudio: I would setup a simple Skydrive enabled data entry spreadsheet. And have VBA spreadsheet on PC to grab the data from SkyDrive folder.

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    kettch

    @DeathByVisualStudio: Macros in a browser are a bad idea. Do you really want Word macro virii running amok in your browser? Do you want poorly written macros sucking battery and performance from your mobile device?

    Aside from that, there are insane technical problems in porting a very specific execution environment and object model to run in a browser and/or on a mobile device.

    If data collection is that important, then you need to use an app. Macros are probably the worst possible solution.

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    evildictait​or

    @DeathByVisualStudio: How would you expect web-browser-based Office apps to cope with VBA macros that do things like interact with the FileSystemObject, or do WScript.Shell.Exec("malware.exe") ?

    The only way I can see it working is insisting that users of the web-browser based Office app install an ActiveX component to run those VBA macros, but that sounds like it would be ( a) painful, (b) undermine a lot of the point of having an online product, (c) give Microsoft critics something different to complain about and (d) probably introduce all sorts of extra complexity, security problems and so on, all just so that VBA macros work in the web when you could instead just use Office 2013, connect to 365 and get the VBA macros through that instead.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , kettch wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio: Macros in a browser are a bad idea. Do you really want Word macro virii running amok in your browser? Do you want poorly written macros sucking battery and performance from your mobile device?

    Aside from that, there are insane technical problems in porting a very specific execution environment and object model to run in a browser and/or on a mobile device.

    If data collection is that important, then you need to use an app. Macros are probably the worst possible solution.

    I'm not sure where all of this came from since I said:

    but the macros were only used on the desktop after the data was collected.

    Sounds to me you're just trying to make me out as a crazy troll. Nice try.

    IMO, WP and the web versions should allow the spreadsheet containing macros to be edited but the macros are dormant. 

    , magicalclick wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio: I would setup a simple Skydrive enabled data entry spreadsheet. And have VBA spreadsheet on PC to grab the data from SkyDrive folder.

    While that would be a nice solution it was more than what I had time for.

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