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Someone still installing Windows updates automatically?

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    androidi

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/2980285/microsoft-windows/dont-check-that-box-windows-7-patch-kb-3083324-sneaks-in.html

    Summary of the article between the lines: "avoid installing this Important update because of vague description which doesn't outright state that it has nothing to do with sneaking in Windows 10 / spying stuff"

     

    So the tech press is in full on "scare people away from installing updates because it might install something undesired"-mode.

     

    A pertinent question to MS is - why does not Windows Update describe atleast the non-security Optional updates better straight inside the Windows update (in windows 7) without having to click "more information"?

    Right now it says "Install this update to resolve issues in Windows. For complete listing blah blah..."

    So you have to click more information for each update to find out if it's worth installing - and it's  my feel that there's a higher risk of breaking something with these non-security updates so I default to not installing them.

    I agree with the premise of the article linked - Given the vague descriptions of the Important non-security update(s), I tend to avoid those too if it's too vague).

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    magicalclick

    I do auto update.

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    Ian2

    , magicalclick wrote

    I do auto update.

    +1

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    Auto updates do me.

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    magicalclick

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    Auto updates do me.


    Sounds sexy lol.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , magicalclick wrote

    *snip*
    Sounds sexy lol.

    In the context of being in prison it's not. ;)

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    magicalclick

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    In the context of being in prison it's not. ;)


    That is subjective matter. :P

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , magicalclick wrote

    *snip*
    That is subjective matter. :P

    True dat. I do like Orange is the New Black. :) Live and let live...

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    ScottWelker

    I moved to Linux.

    No to Win8. No to auto update / Win10 (for now).

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    TheTraveler

    @ScottWelker: Do you then auto update your linux install?

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    cheong

    @TheTraveler: I don't think most people will.

    In the past I had a few times that the automerge of rpmnew file failed to copy some settings, so have to do manual updates and then verify the settings are correctly copied to the updated configuration file.

    Then again the last time I need to look after Linux systems was about 7 years ago. Things should have gone better.

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    ScottWelker

    , TheTraveler wrote

    @ScottWelker: Do you then auto update your linux install?

    I do not auto update. Auto Update is an option, Software Update Preferences. I insist on managing my updates, applying them when I can afford the time/downtime to deal with any fallout.

    With CentOS 6.x. I have not had a single update failure in over of year of use. I also cannot recall it ever requiring a reboot (but I think it did at least once). I am overdue for my upgrade to CentOS 7.x - waiting until I have the time.

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    ScottWelker

    , cheong wrote <snip>

    In the past I had a few times that the automerge of rpmnew file failed to copy some settings, so have to do manual updates and then verify the settings are correctly copied to the updated configuration file.

    Then again the last time I need to look after Linux systems was about 7 years ago. Things should have gone better.

    Indeed things are markedly improved in the Linux arena. However, I have purposefully chosen the "Stable Release". I demand a reliable platform that I can support.

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    For those who'll no doubt opine that this level of stability and control is possible with Enterpris'y Win8/10. Perhaps you are correct. However, the associated costs (real and my time to support it), loss of Tech Net and the resulting inability to maintain (cheap) development and test environments, thrashing MS technology directions, etc., etc. make Windows an increasingly less desirable solutions platform - IMHO.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , ScottWelker wrote

    *snip*

    For those who'll no doubt opine that this level of stability and control is possible with Enterpris'y Win8/10. Perhaps you are correct. However, the associated costs (real and my time to support it), loss of Tech Net and the resulting inability to maintain (cheap) development and test environments, thrashing MS technology directions, etc., etc. make Windows an increasingly less desirable solutions platform - IMHO.

    AMEN!

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    spivonious

    To answer the thread's title, yes. I've done auto updates since XP added the option (SP2?). I guess I'm just lucky, but I've never had a bad update cause downtime.

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    cheong

    @ScottWelker: Indeed, all the time loss to find a workaround when update fails have dramatically increase the TCO Microsoft keep talking about for non-business edition owners.

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    cheong

    @spivonious: It's because you're fortunate enough for not installed any packages found to be causing problem with Windows update.

    From my memory, people who have installed theme package that uses UXTheme should have had downtime of about a week (time for Microsoft to release update that replaced the problematic one) if Microsoft had taken away the ability to do "not install" selective update,

    or half day (average time for people experienced that problem to find out what happened. it's because the forums initially have posts that said Microsoft Support mentioned an unrelated update is causing the problem - Not sure if it's just the original poster misremembered the KB number or MS support indeed telling incorrect infromation. After about half day the actual update that should be uninstalled is made clear) when updates can be blocked after it installed at least once in Win7.

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    ScottWelker

    , spivonious wrote

    <snip>... I've done auto updates since XP added the option (SP2?). I guess I'm just lucky, but I've never had a bad update cause downtime.

    In truth I've had little real trouble with the updates. However, I chose when and whether to install them and sometimes I installed them FIRST in a sacrificial test environment. Having no choice but to apply an update NOW is itself downtime and, for me, unacceptable; I can't support that. :@

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