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Surface Pro seems to be named Surface Windows 8 Pro now

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    dentaku

    It looks like the Surface Pro has been officially rebranded the Surface Windows 8 Pro?
    I've noticed this new name popping up online since this morning.

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    cheong

    If Microsoft's going to sell it after Win9 (or whatever it names when release) is up, they should provide some way to convery the OS difference or people can't tell.

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    cbae

    @cheong: Huh?

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    cheong

    I mean customers can easily understand "Surface Windows 8 Pro" runs on Win8 family, then they'll know that if they want to find Win9 loaded Surface, they should look for something like "Surface Windows 9 Pro".

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    evildictait​or

    , cheong wrote

    I mean customers can easily understand "Surface Windows 8 Pro" runs on Win8 family, then they'll know that if they want to find Win9 loaded Surface, they should look for something like "Surface Windows 9 Pro".

    Don't you mean a Microsoft Surface Customer Facing OEM Special Edition NT with XP Media Enabled Customer Enhancements for Home Customers N 9 Professional Edition?

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    cheong

    I don't think they'll make it that long... but names like "Surface Windows 8 Pro KN /w Touch Cover" is quite possible.

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    evildictait​or

    , cheong wrote

    I don't think they'll make it that long...

    I don't know. Both of these are real Microsoft products:

    Microsoft Windows Server Base Operating Systems Management Pack for Microsoft Operations Manager 2005

    Microsoft (R) WinFX(TM) Software Development Pack for Microsoft(R) Pre-Release Windows Operating System Code-Named "Longhorn", Beta 1 Web Setup.

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    Bas

    What a stupid name.

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    cbae

    @Bas: I know. It's like calling a notebook computer Sony Vaio Windows 8 Pro.

    I chalk this up as another example of Microsoft trying to be like Apple with its iPad, iPad 2, New iPad (which has Retina Display), and iPad with Retina Display (not to be confused with the New iPad, which is know old but but also has Retina display).

    The only difference is that Microsoft is tying the version of the hardware to the version of the OS rather than some arbitrary name. So when Windows Blue comes out, your old Surface Windows 8 Pro will become Surface Windows 8 Pro with Windows Blue.

    Ugh.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    Do you think Microsoft is betting that some people will think they have to buy the latest Surface tablet to get the latest version of the OS? If true they then they just underscore that they are playing from Apple's (now dated) playbook.

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    MasterPi

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    Do you think Microsoft is betting that some people will think they have to buy the latest Surface tablet to get the latest version of the OS? If true they then they just underscore that they are playing from Apple's (now dated) playbook.

    The thing is, they haven't yet carved out a good part of the market for themselves to even begin to set in motion mechanisms for latching onto customers. Cycling a 10K with training wheels basically.

     

    Oh, and I hate the name. MS thinks too long term, planning for the next wave of products and future integration (the name is to help distinguish products in the Surface family most likely). But, they should really care more about the products they're selling now and how to make them great sales.

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    wastingtime​withforums

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    Do you think Microsoft is betting that some people will think they have to buy the latest Surface tablet to get the latest version of the OS? If true they then they just underscore that they are playing from Apple's (now dated) playbook.

    They could have made a real Windows business here - sell major OS upgrades to tablets and phones too. But I guess since Apple isn't doing that...

    WWAD - What Would Apple Do?

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    ryanb

    I think the naming is an attempt to distinguish the Surface Pro from Surface RT in order to address some of the customer confusion about capabilities ('this device runs Windows 8 Pro").  But I would expect that for those customers, knowing Pro vs. RT doesn't really help any in answering their questions.  The naming also creates a very awkward problem for dealing with later versions of the OS.  Just taking the number out of the name -- i.e. Surface Windows Pro instead of Surface Windows 8 Pro would be better.  But at that point, you should just drop the Windows too and go right back to the SurfaceRT and Surface Pro we had before.  MS has been using "Windows 8" as a brand, most likely to emphasize the departure from previous versions.  But highlighting the change from older versions makes it more awkward for future versions.

    Microsoft has always had the worst product naming of any company in the history of time.  Most of the products would be much better off to stick with the internal development names.

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    Craig_​Matthews

    Perhaps "Windows 8" is the basis going forward and new versions of the OS would be 8.1, 8.2, 8.3, just like IOS/OSX/Everything before the year 2000 ?

     

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    wkempf

    Doesn't matter what other people are reporting, what matters is the name Microsoft is using. And it's not "Surface Windows 8 Pro", which is a lousy name on so many levels. Instead, it's only slightly better with the name "Surface with Windows 8 Pro" (http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-US/surface-with-windows-8-pro/home). This seems to indicate to the customer that we just have a Surface device. You can choose to have Windows RT on it (Surface with Windows RT) or Windows 8 Pro on it (Surface with Windows 8 Pro). Unfortunately, these aren't the same device, making the name rather bad. Surface and Surface Pro are better, as they give you an indication that the devices are different. The "with" part of the new naming is OK, and possibly needed, but not indicating there's a difference in the devices with the root name is simply bad. "Surface with Windows RT" and "Surface Pro with Windows 8" I think would have been fine (Do you have to spell out the SKU of Windows 8? If so, you'll need to pick some name that won't cause Pro to be specified twice in the name.).

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    magicalclick

    Why not Surface NOT RT. Lol. Anyway, both RT and Pro run Windows 8, just want to point out the obvious.

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    wkempf

    No, Window RT is not Windows 8. Surface RT runs Windows RT. Just to point out the obvious Wink.

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