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    Erisan

     
    What could be the two other announcement additional to Steambox ... Half-Life 3?

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    Sven Groot

    Half-Life 2 episode 2 part 2.

    Just to avoid the number 3.

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    spivonious

    I hope it's HL3. I've been waiting for that game since finishing Episode 2 five years ago.

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    intelman

    I hope PC gaming does not go away. Valve feels threatened by the app store model. Microsoft needs to ensure, and make them feel comfortable with the fact that games can and will continue to exist!

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    intelman

    http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/

    Well that is odd. If the PC games we know and love today will be available on this SteamOS, I can see myself dropping Windows in my personal life. I keep Windows at home purely for gaming. I would probably likely prefer OSX otherwise.

    I doubt BF4 will come to SteamOS though.

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    Erisan

    @intelman:I have similar situation but I'm using Linux (home/work) instead of OSX.

    SteamOS sounds very nice and I'm excited to see how it will evolve. Especially it's interesting to see AAA gaming coming for Linux. I'm already spending most of my gaming time on Linux (Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4). Of course there's uPlay and Origin that couses still some troubles ...

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    intelman

    It will be interesting to see how SteamOS works. Will it have a traditional driver model?

    I think Microsoft should be quite worried. I know there are plenty of 8 gamers out there now , http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey?platform=pc , but the idea that one can go out and get a APU from AMD that is as powerful or more powerful than the Xbox One or PS4, get free software and take advantage of a large library of games and iconic steam sales ... is a big deal.

    Microsoft needs to do its best to appease these 3rd party app stores. Allow them to make beautiful immerse experiences based on Windows. Steam is locked out of Windows on ARM. Maybe someday Microsoft will lock out 3rd party app stores for x86? The outcry would be amazing, but stranger things have happened. No telling what the next decade will hold. Android is 5 today, they have sure come a long way in 5 years!

    I am unsure if Microsoft has more to lose with the Xbox, or with the PC. Both are being attacked with this proposal.

    Sure, valve will have growing pains, but they are also well positioned to bring the fight.

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    MarkDeFalco

    , Erisan wrote

    @intelman:I have similar situation but I'm using Linux (home/work) instead of OSX.

    SteamOS sounds very nice and I'm excited to see how it will evolve. Especially it's interesting to see AAA gaming coming for Linux. I'm already spending most of my gaming time on Linux (Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4). Of course there's uPlay and Origin that couses still some troubles ...

    Semi-hijack Smiley I've played the demos for CK2 and EU4, but there's sooo much to wrap my head around.  I've played 100s of hours of Civilization, so I understand the need for depth and enjoy the complexity, but man do they have huge learning curves.

     

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    Erisan

    @MarkDeFalco:Heh, they do and they still are incredible good games Smiley. Requires lots of time which is a little problem these days.

    I don't mind that some games has huge learning curve if it's not because of bad design.

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    Erisan
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    Bass

    I really like the way Valve is going with this.

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    Bas

    I find it hard to get excited about any of this without any information about what advantages a new OS will bring to the table, or exactly what the hardware will offer over an existing Windows/OSX/Linux PC or consoles.

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    jamie

    ...i just like all the names ... steam  ... valves .... 

    it is steam punk cool - much like my avatar - that i was able to set - un-dynamically  Wink

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    Erisan

    Heads up!

    Next announcement in 15 minutes.

    http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/

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    androidi

    @Bas: My most cynical take is that this is essentially equivalent of "calling" what looked like flush beans @ Kickstarter.

    My most optimistic take would be that Valve sees things and values that the other hardware companies don't. It's hard to guess what those things are for them but personally I'd like, as some here might guess by now, low end to end latency, color and sound reproduction accuracy, so that any artist working on the content can be 100% certain their work atleast has the possibility (without user configuring things to suit their particular vision or hearing impairments) of being appreciated the same way as it was on the artist/composers studio system. Instead what we've got for a long time is "bigger number is better". Yet for some reason, though my phone has more megapixels, the images look worse than my 10 year old pocket camera. In many cases hardware specs have little relevancy to what the actual experience is, or why a 320x200 game can look better than 4K-pixel game (eg. a mostly blank screen with high resolution button that makes fart sounds), or why16 tastefully selected colors can be better than 16 million shades of puke green. If I want excitement without great sound and visuals, I can try and guess which stock is going up or down... I guarantee that's more exciting than most game mechanics if you have enough leverage... (edit: read "too much")

     

     

     

     

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