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The Surface Pro is a hit!

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  • brian.​shapiro

    , kettch wrote

    @brian.shapiro: Even better than desktop applications being sold through the store, is the idea of desktop applications being updated through system API's. (insert angelic choir/happy dance)

    We could see the end of little services that do nothing but ping for updates and nag. Get back in your hole Acrobat! I'll update when I'm good and ready!

    And my hope is if that happens eventually we might get rid of the distinction between Desktop apps and Metro apps, and just have both full screen versions and windowed versions of some apps.

  • OrigamiCar

    , brian.​shapiro wrote

    *snip*

    And my hope is if that happens eventually we might get rid of the distinction between Desktop apps and Metro apps, and just have both full screen versions and windowed versions of some apps.

    Yes please!

    Metro apps being able to be windowed and access to less 'gated' API calls for internal apps (saving files to more locations, some direct SQL/ADO.net calls and some additional stuff etc, and we will replace some of our internal business apps for metro ones. not saying there's anything wrong with current WinRT development for consumer apps, but it would be tricky to make some of our internal apps as productive in current WinRT methodologies.

  • MasterPi

    Surface Pro commercial in case anyone missed:

    Looks like they really want to make the business pitch.

    When my code doesn't compile, I too want to randomly in the middle of the day break out in dance and throw my laptop around. Tongue Out

  • Bas

    @MasterPie: I want to do that all the time.

  • CaRDiaK

    A hit? With most best buys having one of each device at most? Most stores not even being aware of the release date or details? 

    It's a complete farse of a launch and still no information for the UK. Cheers. 

    We can only see a short distance ahead, but we can see plenty there that needs to be done.
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  • androidi

    Halve the thickness, weight and price, double user storage and battery life, and solve the complaints reviewers have had (poor usability when on lap legs crossed with the keyboard, "modern" app startup time) and then we might be talking about a hit.

    Maybe the keyboard piece could contain the main battery and you could detach it and plug in from the other side, such that the keyboard+main.bat. pieces keys would face the back of the part containing the display, and the keyboards underside would be the bottom of the device when used as a tablet. To facilitate this transition, there would be a smaller battery inside the display containing piece than supplies power while you are switching the keyboard+mainbattery to the other side (laptop->tablet form). I haven't really deeply thought about this though so there could be some issues I haven't anticipated. I just noted eg. Anandtech complaining about the rigidity when used legs crossed, if the keyboard contained the main battery this would distribute the weight better and provided more rigidity.

     

  • Bas

    @androidi: Also make it produce solid gold bars at two-hour intervals, and have it foster peace and understanding througout the world. Then they'll have a hit.

  • fanbaby

    @MasterPie: I'm sure Steve Jobs would have approved this.... NOT   how can this thing pass all managerial levels? Microsoft sure doesn't look like 200B company. This reminds me my feeling watching the start screen, its too fidgity!maybe i'm getting old, but I hate things that keep moving and changing

  • MikeInOhio

    , fanbaby wrote

    ...maybe i'm getting old...

     

    I can only hope that is the case - If I had to base my purchase on that commercial alone, it would have been a "no sale"

     

    ...now get off of my porch

  • OrigamiCar

    , androidi wrote

    -snip-

    Maybe the keyboard piece could contain the main battery and you could detach it and plug in from the other side, such that the keyboard+main.bat. pieces keys would face the back of the part containing the display, and the keyboards underside would be the bottom of the device when used as a tablet. To facilitate this transition, there would be a smaller battery inside the display containing piece than supplies power while you are switching the keyboard+mainbattery to the other side (laptop->tablet form). I haven't really deeply thought about this though so there could be some issues I haven't anticipated. I just noted eg. Anandtech complaining about the rigidity when used legs crossed, if the keyboard contained the main battery this would distribute the weight better and provided more rigidity.

     



    Hi Androidi,

    If you read the Reddit AMA that the surface team did a few days ago, there were hints of new accessories for the pro coming soon. They have redesigned the magnetic keyboard clip on the surface pro compared to the surface with additional connection points so it can do more - battery power was one of the things mentioned.
    I would be shocked if there's not a future accessory of a full keyboard with additional battery in it to convert it into a more laptop like device with double the battery power.

    The question then becomes, if Microsoft did release this, when would it satisfy some of the biased IT press, or would they find more reasons to dismiss Microsoft and worship Apple?!

  • CaRDiaK

    @OrigamiCar: I can see it already...

    Type Cover WITH Battery... +£150

    We can only see a short distance ahead, but we can see plenty there that needs to be done.
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  • FuncOfT

    LOL, I like the commercial on some levels, but on other levels, I feel like the people most excited about the product are the people least likely to ever, ever, ever be able to move like that.  Wink

  • cbae

    , Bas wrote

    @androidi: Also make it produce solid gold bars at two-hour intervals, and have it foster peace and understanding througout the world. Then they'll have a hit.

    Don't forget the ability to build you an island and transform into a jet to fly you there.

  • elmer

    , MasterPie wrote

    Looks like they really want to make the business pitch.

    Why can' they just produce a decent ad that explains why your business might want this?

    A bunch of people dancing about the office does nothing for me as a potential business buyer, and on a personal level, as an MS dev, I just find it embarrassing to watch.

  • MasterPi

    , elmer wrote

    *snip*

    Why can' they just produce a decent ad that explains why your business might want this?

    This was shown during the grammys.

    Why does their detailed/feature ad need to go on tv?

  • Bas

    , elmer wrote

    *snip*

    Why can' they just produce a decent ad that explains why your business might want this?

     

     

    Do ads like those actually work? Especially during the Grammys?

  • kettch

    @Bas: Considering the kinds of music that wins Grammys these days, I don't hold a very high opinion of the viewers. So...yes, they do work. Tongue Out

  • elmer

    Clearly, a free set of steak-knives is what's required.

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