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    Ray7

    , PopeDai wrote

    I see why they went with the approach they did: we're past the days of optical drives, spinning platter storage, and internal expansion cards.

    Well, we'll see if they're right about that. The consumer market is one thing, but this machine is aimed at pros who are a little more traditional in their thinking.

    But the decision to move to laptop-style integrated GPUs that presumably cannot be upgraded, I'm not to sure about. While it's true that GPU performance has plateaued lately I'm not sure this makes it a good purchasing option: I expect a computer to last 5-6 years, and I'll upgrade the RAM twice, and the GPU after 3 years.

    Take a look at the run through on the Apple site. There's no reason why the cards couldn't be swapped in and out (and without a screwdriver), but as you say, we're talking about a very small market (and just because it's feasible doesn't mean Apple will let you do it). A lot of Mac Pro professionals have moved to the iMac + second monitor or a Macbook Pro + second monitor.

    , Jsoh wrote

    You can get it in any color you want, as long as it's black. I can't tell which of the boards are use replaceable. I would be more concerned about replacing the flash storage, than other components like the GPUs. I find it interesting all this talk about 4K displays without any 4K display announcement.

    d) not enough information.

    Yup, it has to be black because what Apple has done is put three boards inside a small chimney; silver or white wouldn't really help with the heat dissipation. The components are arranged in a triangle with plenty of space front and back for air circulation. Very nice, and a complete surprise; I think most pundits thought we'd be looking at a return to the Cube, which did have problems with heat.

     

    Looks like the flash storage sits in front of the GPU boards so should be replaceable.

    I really like the design; it looks like they've come up with something that should be quiet enough to have in the same room as you (unlike the last Mac Pro, which could roar a bit).

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    Some more pics at Arstechnica. Yup, that is impressively small, but is it practically small?

    Importantly, you can mess around with the insides without turning it on its side, otherwise you'd need chocs to stop it moving.

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    eddwo

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    I think that's the same approach taken for this product:

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    Looks like it's just about the right size to fit inside that.

    It's like the G4 Cube all over again, except well, rounder I suppose.

    They had the same thermal solution for that as well, a central core with a big fan.

    Nice talking point to have one on your desk, but if you're actually wanting to use it for movie production or publishing do you care that much about the shape of the casing?

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    wastingtime​withforums

    I don't like it, but after Microsoft's course in the past two years, Microsofties have no right to complain about Apple's restrictions.

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    JoshRoss

    , wastingtime​withforums wrote

    I don't like it, but after Microsoft's course in the past two years, Microsofties have no right to complain about Apple's restrictions.

    I'll complain about anything that stinks, darn it!

    -Josh

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    Ray7

    , eddwo wrote

    *snip*

    Looks like it's just about the right size to fit inside that.

    It's like the G4 Cube all over again, except well, rounder I suppose.

    They had the same thermal solution for that as well, a central core with a big fan.

    Almost right, except that the G4 didn't have the same thermal solution

    It didn't have a central core.

    It didn't even have a fan, big or otherwise. So really, it didn't have a 'thermal solution' at all. 

    This is pretty much the hallmark of Apple design: you look at it and think 'Wow', then look again and think, 'Duh! Well, obviously. How else would you build it?'

    Though when I looked at the Cube I thought, 'That will burn someone's house down.' 

    , eddwo wrote

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    Nice talking point to have one on your desk, but if you're actually wanting to use it for movie production or publishing do you care that much about the shape of the casing?

    Well, you'd be surprised at what people care about. I reckon the best selling expansion boxes for this this thing will be ones that complement it. In general though, most people will want to know how fast it is and how much it will cost. We know it'll be damn fast, but for how much?

     

     

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    Blue Ink

    , Ray7 wrote

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    Well, you'd be surprised at what people care about. I reckon the best selling expansion boxes for this this thing will be ones that complement it.

    Cylindrical monitors will be all the rage Tongue Out

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    PopeDai

    , Blue Ink wrote

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    Cylindrical monitors will be all the rage Tongue Out

    In all seriousness, yes - except they're 360-degree monitors and you sit in the middle.

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    eddwo

    Well we do seem to be approaching this sort of arrangement gradually

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    But I'm not sure there is much value to be had in going past about 120 degrees field of view.

    If you have a 360 degree monitor, how do you get inside it?

    At that rate you're probably gonna end up having something like this instead.

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    ScanIAm

    @eddwo:I want that.

    Or I'd settle for immersive glasses, but still.

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