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The significant market share of Windows RT

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    wastingtime​withforums

    http://meshpress.com/dell-inc-nasdaqdell-urging-microsoft-corporation-nasdaqmsft-to-call-windows-rt-something-else-clwr-nok/1224569.html

    Full quote:

    Dell Inc. (NASDAQ:DELL) is being repeatedly requesting Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT)  to modify the name of Windows RT through its vice-chairman and president of PC business on the grounds that it is not designed to support genuine Windows software.

    But, Steve Ballmer of Microsoft Corporation is of the view that we cannot call the new OS with a different name because " Windows" served our company well for so many years that customers are used to relating MSFT with Windows therefore, if it is changed then we are going to lose our significant market share.

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    The significant market share of... Windows RT? Are they kidding? And yes, the name is terrible. But it's nice to see that "New Microsoft" not only ignores customers, developers, admins and partners, but even the most important OEMs now too! Nice going.

    And it must be RT he's talking about with the "significant market share", because Dell of course doesn't ask that Windows 8 x86 should renamed.

     

    There's more:
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    Additionally, Ballmer clarified that MSFT will provide necessary information about the differences between two platforms which are known as Windows 8 and Windows RT in few days. But, the software giant clearly refused to entertain the featured request made by DELL's top management. ---------

    LOL, what? Win8 is since almost two months on the market, and they will provide necessary information in a few days?

    More: http://bgr.com/2012/12/17/windows-rt-dell-warning-255955/

    Ballmer responded by saying that the Windows brand was too important of a franchise to not be used in the company's tablet operating system. The executive's decision has since been heavily criticized and even forced Microsoft to extend its Surface RT return policies after consumers realized the device could not run their favorite Windows applications.

    Utter insanity. How many more clues do they need to realize their problems with Windows 8?

    Yeah, another Windows 8 thread. Deal with it. This forum is a borefest without these posts anyway. If you don't like it, don't read the thread.

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    evildictait​or

    This forum is a borefest

    You are free to leave at any time.

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    wastingtime​withforums

    , evildictait​or wrote

    *snip*

    You are free to leave at any time.

    Sure. I just don't get it why some of you get such panic attacks about the flamey Win8 posts. At least they bring action into this forum.

    You have a to be manic prozac user to find threads like these preferable to a healthy W8 flame war.

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    exoteric

    Actually, the ISS is pretty interesting. That's all I have to say  Cool

    ...Except this  Wink

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    kettch

    @exoteric: What did I just watch, and why did I watch the whole thing?

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    MasterPi

    , wastingtime​withforums wrote

    You have a to be manic prozac user to find threads like these preferable to healthy W8 flame war.

    If starting flame wars on the internets turns you on every day, I think even Prozac might not help you.

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    exoteric

    @kettch: So let me get this straight - what you're saying is that you don't know the Da Da Da song? For shame! It has a super catchy tune (as you know by now, desperately wishing you didn't) and very "deep" lyrics with a certain (dare I say) humorous application to this thread.

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    kettch

    @exoteric: I've probably heard a version of it at some point, but never so enthusiastic a performance. Almost hypnotic.

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    Harlequin

    Not sure what was wrong with "Windows 8 ARM Edition". I can see the reasoning for not having a "Tablet Edition" like they used to with XP(my Motion Computing tablet came with XP Tablet Edition)...but the "RT" makes no sense to anyone. It really is an ARM-only operating system, and should be labeled as such I think.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    For me RT = ReTarded. It seems Microsoft is more inclined from the top down to worry about Windows branding on everything (and their geeks loving the kernel onto everything too) rather than worrying about end-user experience. 

    Bill Gates, Ballmer, and Da, da, da, da... Not a great version but I think you get the idea...

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    wastingtime​withforums

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    For me RT = ReTarded. It seems Microsoft is more inclined from the top down to worry about Windows branding on everything (and their geeks loving the kernel onto everything too) rather than worrying about end-user experience. 

    With Windows 8 it's more about EGO on everything. Concerns of devs, users and even top OEMs are irrelevant. It seems they would rather deal with returned RT Surfaces than clearing up the naming confusion. The last time I've looked the mail up still wasn't able to to use the most common mail protocol... and on it goes.  

    These decisions are hardly rational anymore. It seems to me, that they have developed a tight mantra, which says that the Windows 8 design decisions set-up 12-24 months ago need to be followed rigidly, with no modifcations or fine-tuning allowed. No matter the resulting effects or customer/business partner needs.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    @wastingtimewithforums: What's funny is I remember a few years back when people were saying that the execs bailing left and right from Microsoft was a good thing because they were stuck in the past, old guard, etc. and that a new era was dawning at Microsoft. Well I guess we know what that new era looks like...

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    Hometoy

    I do like the idea of Windows 8 ARM (and Windows 8 and Windows 8 Phone and Windows 8 thingy-majiggy) though the names are getting a bit long.  

    Of course, what if they use the Windows RT on a non-ARM chip system?  Then you may start breaking into Windows 8, Windows 8 AMD, Windows 8 ARM, etc.

    They still haven't recovered from Metro, -er, I mean "Modern" interface name change!  People don't know what to call it these days.  At least, what to call it in public within ear shot of your grandmother! Smiley

     

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    elmer

    , exoteric wrote

    ... very "deep" lyrics with a certain (dare I say) humorous application to this thread.

    Perhaps this might be applicable to WTWF's various windows issues...

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    cheong

    @Hometoy: Agreed. At least nobody in my workplace talks about "Modern" UI. All we know about is "Metro".

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    BitFlipper

    , exoteric wrote

    Actually, the ISS is pretty interesting. That's all I have to say  Cool

    ...Except this  Wink

     

     

    ...I don't understand what just happened...

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    Godammit people it's not "Metro" or "Modern". It's the "Microsoft Design Language" or "Windows 8 Store App" Enough with these simple to understand, easy to articulate terms!

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    warren

    , Harlequin wrote

    Not sure what was wrong with "Windows 8 ARM Edition".

    Three reasons off the top of my head:

    • Windows RT isn't really an "edition" in the marketplace -- it's positioned more as an iOS type of operating system that happens to have the real Windows UI.  Nobody would argue that iOS is an "edition" of Mac OS X, despite it being built on the same core.... right?
    • For the most part, Microsoft doesn't use the word "Edition" in their product names anymore.
    • To most people, "ARM" is a body part, not a CPU architecture.  

     

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