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Thoughts about Windows 8 and its "app" lock-in

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    PeterDouglas

    Hello everyone,

    Kind'a new here but here is some thoughts regarding Windows 8. Bear in mind, I have only tested the Release Preview.

    When moving the taskbar to anywhere else, say on top of the screen, the start menu thing still stays on bottom-left. That alone is annoying enough for me personally to not ever install Windows 8. Period. ( I don't mind the fullscreen start menu. )

    That awful "thing" called Charms bar to the right. Seriously? Even seeing it makes my blood boil of anger. That alone is annoying enough for me personally to not ever install Windows 8. Period.

    This whole "app" lock-in and forced to go by Windows Marketplace, well, I don't like it. Period. It's worst than the other two issues, however. That alone is reason enough to not only never install Windows 8, but to never ever develop any "app" for it. Period.

    Windows 8 story is indeed a pretty sad story. I have always installed the new Windows versions coming out, yes even Vista eventhough I hated its name. Frankly, Vista was alright! ( Well, maybe a bit sluggy. )

    With Windows 8, not only I cannot even install it due to the above mentioned reasons, it has done something far worst. I no longer trust Microsoft. I know, it is hard for some people atleast to imagine that oh, someone trusts Microsoft, but I did. I always trusted Microsoft. From backward compatibility to my privacy to how it gave me the freedom to do what I want on my hardware. Well, with Windows 8, not anymore.

    The issues I have stated above are so important for me on a personal level that I am not willing to install some extra shell to get rid of them. Not willing at all to accept the Marketplace lock-in, ever. Never ever. Period.

    I looked forward to Windows 8 before I tried it. Although friends do give each other a second chance, usually, so:

    I will look forward to Windows 9. If my issues are not resolved by Windows 9, sad to say but I no longer will be around in Microsoft ecosystem.

    The journey which started in DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1, will have to end at Windows 7. ( No, due to my third problem with "app" lock-in, there won't be any Windows 8 tablets for me either. )

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    JohnAskew

    We could never learn to be brave and patient, if there were only joy in the world.

    The only thing constant in computer programming is change.

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    spivonious

    @PeterDouglas: Someone call the waaaambulance.

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    Garulon

    @PeterDouglas:That's a lot of periods there.

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    Skriker V1.0

    I bet you install it anyway, really don't see that these are deal breakers, you can still offer software the traditional way.

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    Bigfellahull

    I don't "get" threads like this. I understand voicing opinions or frustrations, but come on. If you don't like it, don't use it. There are plenty of alternatives. 

     

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    TexasToast

    I like it on my tablet that I received from last years build but like many others it does not work well on my laptop.  Windows 8 will work well for new phones and tablets to compete with Apple.   I am pretty sure that once this is done, Microsoft will address the desktop and LOB apps etc.  

    If you dont like it dont buy it.   Thats the best way to show your frustration.  Its not like Microsoft makes automobiles and cannot turn on a dime when it has to.   Its just software and they will do what makes sense to make money.

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    vesuvius

    , Bigfellahull wrote

    I don't "get" threads like this. I understand voicing opinions or frustrations, but come on. If you don't like it, don't use it. There are plenty of alternatives. 

     

    Not for a Troll they are not. This is a troll, a pretty famous one on these forums, trying to hide by using poor grammer

    Please refrain from feeding the troll

     

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    magicalclick

    , Bigfellahull wrote

    I don't "get" threads like this. I understand voicing opinions or frustrations, but come on. If you don't like it, don't use it. There are plenty of alternatives. 

     

     

    Because it is only 40 bucks you have you just spend one more minute to get the RP key.

    I am going to buy it because I my want to dev for Metroll App. Otherwise, win8 is a conflicting environment where Metroll Apps constantly seeking attention to overwrite desktop veteran. Not something I desire for my workstation.

    If you dont want to dev Metroll App and using desktop, better stay with win7 which comes with working taskbar. And hopefully win9 fixed the crippled taskbar for serious taskbar users.

     

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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    evildictait​or

    , PeterDouglas wrote

    I will look forward to Windows 9. If my issues are not resolved by Windows 9, sad to say but I no longer will be around in Microsoft ecosystem.

    Funny how many people say this again and again. I heard it first when people were going from DOS to 95, again with people complaining about NT, with Server 2003, with Vista and now with 8.

    I only take it seriously when someone says "I left the Microsoft ecosystem because..." rather than those who stomp their feet and pretend to themselves that Microsoft gives a damn about whether they stay or not.

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    magicalclick

    @evildictaitor:

    Beware who you make enemy with. And beware how you neglected and disrespect user voice. Especially Microsoft is playing catch up in various markets.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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    cbae

    , magicalclick wrote

    @evildictaitor:

    Beware who you make enemy with. And beware how you neglected and disrespect user voice. Especially Microsoft is playing catch up in various markets.

    Desktop OSes is one area in which Microsoft is not playing catch up, so I don't see your point.

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    PeterDouglas

    , vesuvius wrote

    *snip*

    Not for a Troll they are not. This is a troll, a pretty famous one on these forums, trying to hide by using poor grammer

    Please refrain from feeding the troll

     

    My apologies for not having english as my first language. I am also very very sorry that I wrote something you disagree with. What was I thinking. My bad.

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    magicalclick

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    Desktop OSes is one area in which Microsoft is not playing catch up, so I don't see your point.

    You are correct in your own context.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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    cbae

    , magicalclick wrote

    *snip*

    You are correct in your own context.

    It's not in my context. It's in the OP's context.

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    magicalclick

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    It's not in my context. It's in the OP's context.

    Ok... Correction... You are correct in OP's own context.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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    Charles

    The problem here is not debate... The issue is the lack of intelligent, respectful discourse.So, conversation is not present. It's more banter than anything else.

    Presenting an argument and then engaging in rational and respectful discourse is what conversation is all about - it's what conversation means....

    This thread is not a good example of this simple fact.

    Embarrassed,

    C

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