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Thoughts on the trend to make web sites that do not work with IE ?

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    kettch

    @Blue Ink: Channel 9 threads have a way of making it into the top 5 search engine results. Chances are they've got somebody paying attention to SEO and saw this thread.

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    figuerres

    , Blue Ink wrote

    @figuerres: looks like that second site you listed just removed the silly message box (just commented it out, so we can still admire its awesomeness).

    I guess someone in marketing just found out they were turning away 50% of their potential customers and I guess they weren't amused.

    Good job Smiley

    possibly the author of the site who owns the business saw this and saw my name here and is now not liking me at all .... but i can deal with that if that's the case ....

    it's a business site that i have bought from in the past, I am building a model ship in wood and they have some really great  guides on how to make them.

    if anyone ever wants to try making an amazing wood ship model they are the folks to get the step by step guide on how to do it.

    :--)

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    androidi

    I think MS was too focused on the web developer wishes while ignoring show stopping user experience complaints. Imagine if VS2010 still had those fuzzy fonts. I suspect most would still be with VS2008. From what I know fixing the font issue is possible with not too much effort but it should have been done before release due to first impression being important.

    After that, users either chose to stick with IE8 or move to other browsers, leaving IE9(+) at marginal importance.

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    ZippyV

    Web developers make the mistake of trying to make their site look the same on all browsers and abandoning older browsers completely if they can't get it right. Just create a basic css file for older browsers that don't support css3, so that your site is still readable. Don't even attempt to port back features it doesn't have like border-radius.

     

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    ZippyV

    , JoshRoss wrote

    If you have a site that depends on the browser having access to sqlite, then you have no choice as to make it a no-internet-explorer-zone. But for anything else, most of the other features can be shimmed in.

    The specification reached an impasse: all interested implementors have used the same SQL backend (Sqlite), but we need multiple independent implementations to proceed along a standardisation path.

    IE10 supports IndexedDB. Now we have to wait until Apple wants to do the same.

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    evildictait​or

    , ZippyV wrote

    Web developers make the mistake of trying to make their site look the same on all browsers and abandoning older browsers completely if they can't get it right. Just create a basic css file for older browsers that don't support css3, so that your site is still readable. Don't even attempt to port back features it doesn't have like border-radius.

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    If you're not a website-artist website whose sole purpose is to show off swooshy website templates, then your website's purpose is not to show the template. It is to show the content.

    If you're turning people away because your template doesn't work on their browser, well, you're stupid and you've misunderstood the entire point of your own website.

    Even IE-5 can do basic text rendering and forms, and frankly that's all you need to run most websites. If your site doesn't work on that browser - give them a basic site. Not only will people stuck with IE6 thank you for it (and not immediately go to your competitors), but people with disabilities such as partial blindness who hate funky website designs will be thanking you (and not suing you) too.

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    Bas

    , ZippyV wrote

    Web developers make the mistake of trying to make their site look the same on all browsers and abandoning older browsers completely if they can't get it right. Just create a basic css file for older browsers that don't support css3, so that your site is still readable. Don't even attempt to port back features it doesn't have like border-radius.

     

    , evildictait​or wrote

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    If you're not a website-artist website whose sole purpose is to show off swooshy website templates, then your website's purpose is not to show the template. It is to show the content.

    If you're turning people away because your template doesn't work on their browser, well, you're stupid and you've misunderstood the entire point of your own website.

    Even IE-5 can do basic text rendering and forms, and frankly that's all you need to run most websites. If your site doesn't work on that browser - give them a basic site. Not only will people stuck with IE6 thank you for it (and not immediately go to your competitors), but people with disabilities such as partial blindness who hate funky website designs will be thanking you (and not suing you) too.

     

    So. much. truth.

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