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Time for a new computer...

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    jamie

    It's been years. time for a new one

    (i upgrade basically every 4 years)

    here is what Im thinking for this new system and please ... HELP!

     

    1.  remember every 4 yrs - so budget is 3500/4k

    2. ive been told P i7 (6 core - 3.4 ghz) = $1200

    3. i want a solid state drive - 120 gb seems about all i can afford - to get...

    4 - FOUR - 23 inch monitors ($130ea) and a card to support them:

    (see pics)

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    So yes i will need to build a stand - and not use monitor stands.  should be fun.

    5. i currently have 4 gig of ram - will go 8 - or is 16 the key?

    What would you change?  and ps - i will FINALLY go 64 bit this time...

     

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     * so above lists what im thinkin, found so far.. not sure on what drive... ram...card... MB...

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    jamie

    **** this is what bugs me: moore's law - or lack of there-of:

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    ive been running 3 ghz for years - and now - i upgrade to.... 3.4?????

    for $1200????

    man... i liked the clockspeed days .... 100, 200, 600, 800, ....   not 800.3  Tongue Out

     

    EDIT: i think i need slackmasterK on this Wink

    * - i used www.canadacomputers.com  for pricing... could be anywhere ( but im in toronto)

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    magicalclick

    @jamie:

    Good God, when I see the price, I was like WTH, then, I see the setup, I am like holy s***, that's why.

    The only reminder is the HDD, I am guessing you will have HDD as secondary drive? I recommend all SSD if you want un-interrupt experience, because certain apps will spin all drives, which will hang for few seconds if the drive wasn't spinning at the time (which is usually idle due to being low workload 2nd drive).

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    jamie

    AND the translation is? 

     

    edit - i am making current machine - slave/storage - new one with solid state will be main machine

     

    ill keep current prodects on "c" - backed up of course - but they will be fast to work on.  when done - off to the old computer (this one) with 5 terrabytes - 3ghz

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    edit - that wasnt a spelling error - i have a cold. Tongue Out

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    jamie

    , magicalclick wrote

    @jamie:

    Good God, when I see the price, I was like WTH, then, I see the setup, I am like holy s***, that's why.

    in MY day - each of those 23 inch monitors would have cost 3000 a piece. To even think they are 129 dollars is laughable... but they are.  so budgeting 600 for a monitor (or 4) isnt so ludicrous (when your old ha)

     

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    magicalclick

    , jamie wrote

    *snip*

    in MY day - each of those 23 inch monitors would have cost 3000 a piece. To even think they are 129 dollars is laughable... but they are.  so budgeting 600 for a monitor (or 4) isnt so ludicrous (when your old ha)

     

    you just want me to get jealous. Tongue Out

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    ManipUni

    The i7 isn't good value for money. Just pick up the i5-2500 and use the remaining money on a better GPU or larger SSD. You will get significantly more "value" from those.   

    I'd say you need two graphics cards and with that many monitors and likely over 8 GB of RAM (12 GB of RAM?). 

    I'd say CPU is the least important attribute in this build. The graphics are going to get pushed to the limit (even 2x).  

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    Minh

    I recently got this SSD:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147063

    It's got really good reviews on NewEgg and they say Samsung makes good SSD... but remember, you need a conventional HDD also, 128 GB doesn't go very far these days

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    I think my next upgrade is going to involve a better Mobo... and water pump... but holy S****... an external watercooled power supply is $500...

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    jamie

    , ManipUni wrote

    The i7 isn't good value for money. Just pick up the i5-2500 and use the remaining money on a better GPU or larger SSD. You will get significantly more "value" from those.   

    I'd say you need two graphics cards and with that many monitors and likely over 8 GB of RAM (12 GB of RAM?). 

    I'd say CPU is the least important attribute in this build. The graphics are going to get pushed to the limit (even 2x).  

     

    what about this one:  http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_65&item_id=040098 

    Intel Core i7-980 Six-Core Socket LGA1366, 3.33Ghz, 12MB L3 Cache, 32nm (Retail Boxed) (BX80613I7980)

    it is 599 - not 1,199

    * I do have a good graphics card for the center 2560x1600 already - so the card that will support the 4 side monitors wont have to deal with that one

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    androidi

    With the Ivy Bridge out in few months, this Sandy Bridge E is bit of a gamble, considering I don't think there's much if any benchmarks out there that compare it to the $200-300 OC'd 2600K, which OC to 4.5 - 5 Ghz pretty much every time. So if you don't OC your I7 it's possibly very bad value in comparison.

     

    Also I'm not sure where did you get the 3.4 Ghz result. Are you planning on buying some obsolete I7 used? If you can get one for $200 instead of $1200 then that maybe a decent bargain. The new I7 are ... and I'm not sure 3 MB more cache and 0.1 Ghz is worth ~$500

     Core i7
    Extreme
    3960X3.3 GHz3.9 GHzN/A15 MB130 W6.4 GT/s QPI
    DMI 2.0
    PCIe 3.0
    Up to quad
    channel
    DDR3-1600[29]
    2011-11-14$999
    Core i73930K3.2 GHz3.8 GHz12 MB$583
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    androidi

    @jamie:

    Eh, you're looking at CPU's that are EOL within weeks & pay full price? Who gave you this advice.. a retailer?

    Sounds like you have too much cash burning and not enough patience. Anyway do as you please, retailers will love you for taking some of that very old inventory out.

     

    (Of course there's the flip side that getting anything just released will have bleeding edge problems. If you want best value out of stuff that's been in market for a while I'd look at the I2500K or I2600K)

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    ManipUni

    @jamie: I think an i5-2500K is only $200 instead of $500 and the additional cores will spend much of the time sitting idle. 

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    Royal​Schrubber

    @jamie: When your setup arrives report how Minecraft looks in 3D*

    *Bought new shoes recently, got 3D glasses with a shoe catalog. Stereoscopic pictures, they so purty. Smiley

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    magicalclick

    BTW, HDD prices are super high right now due to Thailand flooding. If you are considering more HDD in your network PC, wait for it.

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    InNoWayIs​ThisBeer

    Jamie,

    Do yourself a huge favor and buy a Mac. It costs more, but you can afford it and you'll see a world of difference. All that bad sh1t that's going to happen when Windows 8 comes, that bad sh1t won't happen to Apple users because Apple's not stupid like Microsoft.

    Better yet, get a Macbook pro. I had a 2 different desktop Macs and I never got why it was so great until I started using the Lion gestures on the Macbook pro trackpad.


    Peace.

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    magicalclick

    , InNoWayIs​ThisBeer wrote

    Jamie,

    Do yourself a huge favor and buy a Mac. It costs more, but you can afford it and you'll see a world of difference. All that bad sh1t that's going to happen when Windows 8 comes, that bad sh1t won't happen to Apple users because Apple's not stupid like Microsoft.

    Better yet, get a Macbook pro. I had a 2 different desktop Macs and I never got why it was so great until I started using the Lion gestures on the Macbook pro trackpad.


    Peace.

    How do you know he is not using a Mac OSX? He could be installing Windows, DOS, Linux, FreeBSD, or Mac OSX. Unless you are for certain Mac OSX cannot handle the hardware?

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    blowdart

    OK children, enough with the insults.

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    PaoloM

    You ruin all the fun Smiley

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