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Video -- Why you shouldn't try to put a desktop OS on a phone, or vice-versa

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    IDWMaster

    I think this video pretty much explains it --- Desktop OSs just aren't meant for phones, and phone OSs (touch centric) certainly aren't meant for desktops:

    NOTE: Before anyone thinks I somehow got Windows 8 to actually run on a real phone, please note that if you look at the video description on YouTube it clearly states that the video is simply a conceptual demonstration (fancy video editing), not an actual demo of Windows 8 running on a phone.

    EDIT: Here is a higher-resolution version for those that requested it (view in 720p HD)

     

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    evildictait​or

    So what you're saying is that someone is basing their entire dislike of Windows8 on conjecture and fancy video editing rather than actually trying it?

    Windows8 isn't for phones anyway. It's for tablets, desktops and servers.

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    Minh

    in other news... Man tries to eat soup w a fork and got frustrated

     

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    Ian2

    .. then man discovers Spork and realises that with one device he can eat soup and peas ..

    (OK, not saying this is a great analogy ....)

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    spivonious

    , evildictaitor wrote

    So what you're saying is that someone is basing their entire dislike of Windows8 on conjecture and fancy video editing rather than actually trying it?

    Windows8 isn't for phones anyway. It's for tablets, desktops and servers.

    All rumors point to Apollo/WP8 being Windows 8 on ARM, tweaked for the smaller screens.

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    evildictait​or

    All rumors point to Apollo/WP8 being Windows 8 on ARM, tweaked for the smaller screens.

    There we go. Just for the record.

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    Minh

    All rumors point to Apollo/WP8 being Windows 8 on ARM, tweaked for the smaller screens.

    "tweaked" is more highlightable than "rumors"... because, who cares what the underlying binaries are, as long as a Phone OS is represented to the user?

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    evildictait​or

    , Minh wrote

    *snip*"tweaked" is more highlightable than "rumors"... because, who cares what the underlying binaries are, as long as a Phone OS is represented to the user?

    The reason I highlighted "rumors" was because having a go at Microsoft for producing a poor product is all very well, but having a go at them for making a poor product that exists only in your head is more a statement about your head than Microsoft's ability to make products.

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    JoshRoss

    I think that I must be missing something here. Windows Phone was released *before* all of these Windows 8 previews. In an effort not to sound redundant, Windows 8 is more or less running Windows Phone 7-- the vice-versa case. Do one more 180 degree spin of the wheel-o-insanity, and we land ten years ago, when some a-holes decided to put a start button on a phone. Nobody is advocating putting a start button on a phone anymore, and I'm Starting-- wink, wink-- to think that a desktop computer doesn't need one either.

    -Josh

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    Minh

    @evildictaitor, well, I'd call the original poster's attempt "lame" in that case

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    blowdart

    , Minh wrote

    *snip*"tweaked" is more highlightable than "rumors"... because, who cares what the underlying binaries are, as long as a Phone OS is represented to the user?

    It'd be churlish to point out that iOS is really OSX, just with a different UI right? Heck Apple's original comments were "iPhone runs OS X". It's still BSD under the hood.

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    JoshRoss

    Anyone have a copy of CP/M that I could put on my phone?

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    BitFlipper

    As if "Windows 8" running on a phone would actually use the same UI as it does on the desktop or tablet. Who are these people that can't think for themselves...?

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    cheong

    , blowdart wrote

    It'd be churlish to point out that iOS is really OSX, just with a different UI right? Heck Apple's original comments were "iPhone runs OS X". It's still BSD under the hood.

    I'd like to hear that has anyone heard someone modded their variant of FreeBSD to run on their iPhone. (While I suspect there's noone this silly to do so...)

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    IDWMaster

    , JoshRoss wrote

    Anyone have a copy of CP/M that I could put on my phone?

    No. Windows 8 will PRESENTLY not run on Windows Phone, and the video I posted above is just a conceptual demonstration (really fancy special effects supposedly made in Photoshop), made by one of my co-workers who happens to be extremely talented at video editing, and he wanted me to post it to Channel9 to see what reactions it would get.

    , evildictaitor wrote

    So what you're saying is that someone is basing their entire dislike of Windows8 on conjecture and fancy video editing rather than actually trying it?

    Windows8 isn't for phones anyway. It's for tablets, desktops and servers.

    The video just shows that Windows 8 in its current form does not make sense as a phone OS, particularly due to its horizontal rather than vertical scrolling, and its style of "make everything big tiles" rather than organized lists of applications (folders or some kind of alphabetical auto-sort would be nice, particularly for mobile devices with small screens.

    Also; I can see Windows 8 for tablets, but its touch-oriented design appears to be geared towards mobile devices, rather than desktop computers and servers. Since no noticeable improvements were made towards the desktop side of things (the standard Desktop view), and no word on server-side improvements, it seems to be destined for Windows Phones and Tablets.

     

    Also; isn't Apollo supposed to be Windows 8 running on phones? So isn't Microsoft planning on putting this on their phone platform.

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    blowdart

    , IDWMaster wrote

    Also; isn't Apollo supposed to be Windows 8 running on phones? So isn't Microsoft planning on putting this on their phone platform.

    Why are you mistaking the OS for the UI? It can be a common code base under the hood, with a different shell. Like Apple has done.

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    evildictait​or

    , blowdart wrote

    *snip*

    Why are you mistaking the OS for the UI? It can be a common code base under the hood, with a different shell. Like Apple has done.

    Or indeed the opposite, like Java does.

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    Charles

    Why you shouldn't make videos about topics you don't really understand... Perhaps that should be the title of this post? I mean, your friend could have produced a video of OSX running on a phone and you'd have the same scenario - it doesn't make sense. ..

    What's the point of this topic, again?

    C

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