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WP emulators were running on Sunday, and now wont start up

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    Harlock123n​ew

    I crafted a WCF webservice project and a set of client consumers for a code demonstration to our developers this past weekend. One of those clients was a simple windows Phone application that I employed the emulators to demonstrate. It was working just fine all weekend and I was quite pleased with myself, being ready for a good demonstration.

    On demonstration time however the windows Phone emulator would not start up complaining that the HyperVisior was not running, or that the Bios/Machine Architecture did not support the HyperVisor. 

    Well I checked BIOS and have determined that the HyperVisor service is in fact running in my system yet the Emulation will not start. Has anyone seen something like this before...

     

    Oh and its Windows 8.1 on a dell M6700 w 32 gigs of ram, VS 2012 patch 4 and the latest WP8 SDK...

     

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    PeterF

    Have only seen this after upgrading BIOS, setting the virtualization back to default.

    On a side note, WCF for universal 8.1 apps is currently only supported for Windows apps, not for Windows Phone apps, in case you plan to upgrade your demo to WP8.1

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    Harlock123n​ew

    Well I did not do a BIOS update, I did check the bios and the virtualization features were all turned on. Retried to no avail. Very frustrating but seems to be par for the course with this system.

    I run a 4k display and sometimes the windows system dialogs are in what I call CARTOON mode, all scaled to 2x where the rest of the system is at 1x. (I have to reduce the resolution and apply it, then increase it again and apply it get them back to norm).

    I have a CISCO VPN that I sometimes have to connect to. If I do for some work related thing, and then disconnect from the vpn, later when I go to shutdown the system will literally take 10 minutes to shutdown, and even then it wont actually shutdown it will reboot instead. This happens if I disconnect from the VPN or just shutdown still connected to the VPN.

    I have 2 Samsung 840 ssd's in this unit. If It warm boots it will never boot to the C drive and thus to windows 8.1. Rather the second drive always seems to preempt it and it tries to boot off it and gives me a partition error. You have to actually power cycle it to get the primary drive to come up first. This of course plays havoc with the issue above also, and it matters NOT if BIOS is told to ignore the second drive in its boot priority or not. I have tried it in every way....

    IE will often be in some arbitrary zoom factor like 300% or more when I first open it during the day. These zoom settings will also reset themselves to 300% or more if I play with the resolution of the desktop. (Which I often do when sharing my display with others on say Goto Meeting or Webex).

    There are a number of OPTIONAL updates on windows update that I have right clicked and told it to hide. Yet when I re-open Windows update, there they are again. (Like BING BAR for example).

    At least once a day the AMD video drive Craps out and restarts right smack in the middle of anything I may be doing.

    My company has a number of these DELLS and when they work they are nice but every damn one of them has weird crap like this happening with them, overall I will NOT be looking at DELLs again with our future purchases even though some of this pile of issues has to be software related, certainly the drive boot order issue is not a windows/drive issue.. and I am wondering if the problem I have with this stupid WP emulator is also a BIOS issue....

     

     

     

     

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    Proton2

    The only time I had a vhd stop working on me was when the power went out, shutting off my computer, and the vhd got corrupted.

    I've since had all my desktop computers on surge protected power back up units. I also have my phone system, Internet system and TV all on power back ups, and my living room light too, just in case. I can watch TV in the semi dark for up to 4 hours with the power out.

    Anyways, I have worked a lot with .vhd's and except for that one time, and the time I compressed the folder holding my .vhd files (uncompressing fixed that problem), I have never had a problem.

    I had a Dell machine that got used for many years, by my twin brother, 233 MHz, that my oldest brother got from his work, that was free, because they where throwing it out. I felt sorry for my twin brother and eventually built him a dual core Pentium D system (that was never shut off for about 6 years), then he got my i7 system with 12GB of ram when I got my Surface Pro. But I'm typing this on my fathers laptop that also has an i7 with 12GB of ram.

    Sorry for boring you. I don't want to look at a couple of other threads in this forum right now, I want to get a good nights sleep, and I just spent a half hour trying to figure out what was stopping VS14 from expanding the view of a class in a class diagram. Turned out that any method with a dot in the name, generated by explicitly implementing an Interface, was causing the problem. Well, it is a CTP.

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    PeterF

    Ask IT to verify whether there are BIOS and video card driver updates, just in case... pretty frustrating when you have an unstable setup.

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    Harlock123n​ew

    Sad part is I am IT... so to speak. All my drivers are the latest and the BIOS is Dells latest A11 I believe. I do check on those things from time to time...

    I am rather religious about applying all of the motherships patches and service packs as well which has come back to bite me before. I do NOT have the system automatically doing so however so at least I know that I did X and now Y is happening...

     

     

     

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    PeterF

    So if that's all ok, try uninstall and re-install of the WP8 SDK. That should remove and re-apply emulator images and settings...

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    Harlock123n​ew

    Yeah thats next, but I have been involved in other fires these past two days and haven't gotten back to it. Unfortunately the development team here only saw the struggle with WP and that of course has some of them questioning why we as a company even want to look at WP... Especially if the DEV ENV is so picky, an attitude that I understand given my recent experiences...

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    PeterF

    As a developer I can only say: let other people be responsible for the business case, giving devs that freedom leads to anarchy and bad decision making ;)

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    Harlock123n​ew

    , PeterF wrote

    As a developer I can only say: let other people be responsible for the business case, giving devs that freedom leads to anarchy and bad decision making ;)

    Well I am the CTO and I am suppose to just dictate these sorts of things, but I also pay attention to these kinds of issues because I know how they can derail an effort when crunch time pops up (Which is always) or when a demonstration to a customer worked last night and today does work at all, does not make for very good presentation...

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    davewill

    Based on the widespread instability it almost sounds as if the chipset driver(s) are wrong or were installed out of order.  Did the machine begin its life normally or has it been this way since Dell shipped it?

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    Harlock123n​ew

    @davewill:Well it was quirky when dell shipped it, I have since put Windows 8 on  it. It has DELLs sanctioned drivers except Video which believe it or not is better running with AMDs latest drivers that support the GPU... (Dells Sanctioned driver was utter crap....) Everything else is dells which maybe I should try and get manufacturers drivers instead seeing as the dell video driver was such garbage...

     

     

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