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What's your thought about no more legal medicinal marijuana stores?

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    magicalclick

    So, Obama-Administration is about to close thousands of legal medicinal marijuana store because I guess they are no longer legal? Anyway, what your thought about it?

    Where else can you get legal medicinal marijuana as a real patient? Should illegal black market marijuana have a price jump because of the rising demands? What other alternatives to medicinal marijuana for the real patients who needs it? And what are the cost of those alternatives, both money and drug side-effects?

    Just trying to see what other options are out there. And if you want to gives your thought on the case itself, that's appreciated too.

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    cbae

    The states that legalized marijuana can simply stop cracking down on the illegal sale of marijuana, making it de facto legal, even though it's de jure illegal under federal law. If the feds don't like it, they'll have to devote more resources from the DEA or US Marshals Service or the ATF to enforce the laws themselves. Let's see if the GOP-controlled House is willing to increase government spending in order to enforce the anti-drug pet initiative of their evangelical base.

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    magicalclick

    @cbae:

    I do not know Obama-Administration is controlled by GOP, but, that's indeed interesting.

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    cbae

    , magicalclick wrote

    @cbae:

    I do not know Obama-Administration is controlled by GOP, but, that's indeed interesting.

    Congress controls the budget for the executive branch too.

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    magicalclick

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    Congress controls the budget for the executive branch too.

    But, it is very interesting that Obama actually will approve it. I mean, approved it.

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    cbae

    , magicalclick wrote

    *snip*

    But, it is very interesting that Obama actually will approve it. I mean, approved it.

    I don't know if Obama would, and whether or the states actually decide not to enforce substance control laws is questionable as well. I'm just saying that the states *could* do that if they wanted to.

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    magicalclick

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    I don't know if Obama would, and whether or the states actually decide not to enforce substance control laws is questionable as well. I'm just saying that the states *could* do that if they wanted to.

    Now sure what you mean. You are saying a state can refuse the fed to enforce ban on medicinal drug store? Not sure how a state can stop fed, but, it certainly did not happen.

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    ComeOnBeer

    @magicalclick:

    The KFC on the corner of my street near the Vons was converted into a pot store with a big pot leaf graphic poster over the graphic of the bucket of fried chicken in the front window.

    I wish for it to revert to a KFC so I don't have to drive 5 minutes to get a bucket of chicken.

    Thanks.

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    cbae

    @ComeOnBeer: Converting a KFC into a marijuana dispensary was kind of defeating the purpose anyway.

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    magicalclick

    @ComeOnBeer:

    KFC is probably worse for your health. Tongue Out

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    cbae

    , magicalclick wrote

    *snip*

    Now sure what you mean. You are saying a state can refuse the fed to enforce ban on medicinal drug store? Not sure how a state can stop fed, but, it certainly did not happen.

    The federal laws require that the local jurisdictions deem the sale of marijuana to be unlawful. The federal government depends on local law enforcement agencies to enforce the local laws. The local jurisdictions can choose not to enforce those laws. Local law enforcement has only so many resources, so they can choose to go after the "real" bad guys like murderers and rapists instead driving around looking for drug deals to bust. While I was talking primarily about "black market" sale of marijuana should all the dispensaries close down, I suppose the local governments can choose not to shutdown the dispensaries as well. Obviously, the dispensaries would take the risk that the feds would shut them down themselves, but the local law enforcement doesn't necessarily have to help do so.

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    Srikanth_t

    @magicalclick:  I say let the states refuse to enforce them. Then the Fed government will be forced to spread it's resources thin and may be just bankrupt itself.  Let's just help to speed up the process anyway.

    Here is a nice quote for you : 

    "The government waged a war on drugs and drugs won" - Peter Schiff

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    magicalclick

    @Srikanth_t:

    I don't think states would revolt for something like this. After all, my mom supports Obama-Administration's ban on medicinal marijuana.

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    Blue Ink

    @cbae: I see how local law enforcement could just turn the other way, but I cannot understand how you could keep a shop. How do you file your taxes? Pleading the Fifth?

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    cbae

    , Blue Ink wrote

    @cbae: I see how local law enforcement could just turn the other way, but I cannot understand how you could keep a shop. How do you file your taxes? Pleading the Fifth?

    "Herbal medicine" or "herbal homeopathy"

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    Charles

    It's all pretty crazy... You can drink a fifth of bourbon, but can't smoke a joint... We've got our priorities backwards in this country. Any natural substance that when consumed stokes behavior that includes thinking about things, noodling about what's happening around you, as opposed to not thinking (drunk) is pretty weird. On topic, I'd say that Obama needs to sit down in his back yard, under a tree, hidden from view of passers-by, spark a joint and think about this decision...

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    Looking at this miopically I can understand a lot of the points made here. But if you think of the political environment of today you have to understand that Obama has to compromise with the conservatives on some issues in order to keep the whole thing going. We've all witness how effortless it has been for one political party to basically shutdown the government all in the name of votes. Let's just hope this sacrifice doesn't go unnoticed.

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    magicalclick

    @Charles:

    I think is it crazier because it is interfering with health-care, the medicine stores. To argue about drug abuse is one thing, people can attempt suicide on sleeping pills, get addicted on painkillers, suck on paste, etc., but, this is actually different when we are talking about already regulated drugs. It is almost as if regulation on guns is not enough and shutting down the gun stores (similar and hopefully won't happen because of the protection of Constitution).

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