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Why does IE9 does this?

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    SlackmasterK

    I've noticed this too, and to a lesser extend in IE7 and IE8.  This is the only reason I've switched to Chome. Just until they fix it.

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    evildictait​or

    ,AndyC wrote

    @ZippyV: Yes, that's usually when I've noticed it.

    Does IE9 crash for you often? You might want to try turning off plugins and seeing what happens.

    It's quite common that applications that crash forget your settings (Visual Studio and WinDbg are disappointingly bad in this respect) because lots of apps only save things like settings and histories during process shutdown.

    Even when you think you've saved something to disk (e.g. via fwrite/WriteFileEx) you might very well find that the program has internally cached the data and is waiting for a flush/FlushFileBuffers/fclose/CloseHandle before actually writing the data out to disk - if you crash before the appropriate call is made you'll lose the data, and that might be what's happening in this case.

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    evildictait​or

    One more reason to use Google Chrome or Firefox! (sorry, I support Microsoft, just not their desktop web browser. Still has lots of catching up to do with Firefox, Google Chrome, and other HTML5-compliant browsers that conform to W3C standards completely)

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/02/w3c-tests-html5-browser-compatibility-crowns-ie9-the-champ/

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    AndyC

    ,evildictait​or wrote

    *snip*

    Does IE9 crash for you often? You might want to try turning off plugins and seeing what happens.

    No, but relatively speaking Windows itself crashes far less often. I think the only time it has was when I was trying out a (non-HP approved) video card driver to see if it could get WebGL working. IE crashes have pretty much always been the result of old Flash plugins, thankfully the current one seems a lot more stable.

    It's quite common that applications that crash forget your settings (Visual Studio and WinDbg are disappointingly bad in this respect) because lots of apps only save things like settings and histories during process shutdown.

    The issue though is that you lose all saved passwords, including ones that have been happily preserved for many sessions and so have obviously been saved to disk previously. It's almost as if, when recovering from a crash, it simply decides to obliterate the old password store and start again.

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    Minh

    ,PaoloM wrote

    *snip*

    Maybe because one wants to? Firefox and Chrome are ok, but not that much better than IE9 at this point...

    Perceived speed-wise, FF & Chrome run circles around IE

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    joechung

    @evildictaitor: (2010? Really?) You might as well link the source, instead of an Engadget article. http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/reporting/report.htm

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    kettch

    @Minh: I haven't tested Chrome in a while because the top tabs that steal my ability to snap the window around annoy me, but FF6 still takes longer to start up, and in my experience 5 and 6 aren't nearly as stable as 4 was with larger numbers of tabs. I regularly have every instance of FF lock up at the same time. At least IE doesn't change every few weeks, because I don't like Russian Roullette.

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    spivonious

    ,Minh wrote

    *snip*Perceived speed-wise, FF & Chrome run circles around IE

    FF takes so long to startup that a slight page performance advantage isn't enough to get me off of IE9.

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    Minh

    I do notice FF slow start up w/ the latest update... but I'd assumed that it was my multitudes of add-ons... I'll take those off and do a speed test

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    Bas

    Thread derailed, well done Minh.

    Anyway, I have a laptop with a dodgy Chinese imitation-Dell battery, and every so often it shuts the machine down hard and I have to re-login everywhere. It's extremely annoying. I wonder what Blowdart's search turns up.

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    Harlequin

    Oddly when my IE9 crashed 4 months or so ago, and I got this password-wipe issue, my IE also had the "Your most popular sites" page not work anymore. All 10 squares had nothing in them, and clearing cache and nothing worked. Then one day it just started working again, so it might have been an IE update/fix that did that for me.

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    magicalclick

    @evildictaitor:

    But, don't you think that's odd? Because those settings are previously stored already. There were plenty of Computer Shutdown and the settings are already persisted all through out. Then, the power outage and my settings are gone. It is basically saying they NOT ONLY open RW permission to read the existing settings, but, they actually clear out the stored info right after. Why would anyone wants to do that? I wouldn't want to remove or clear out a file until I want to rewrite it.

    @Minh:

    please make your own thread about other topics, thank you. Not going to answer your question on this thread since it is offtopic.

     

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    Minh

    This is as on-topic as I'm gonna get

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    CKurt

    It also removes all the tiles it shows on the default new tab to get fast access to recent sites. This is more disturbing than the los of passwords for me.

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    Harlequin

    ,CKurt wrote

    It also removes all the tiles it shows on the default new tab to get fast access to recent sites. This is more disturbing than the los of passwords for me.

    And reinstalling doesn't fix it for some reason.

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    CKurt

    @Harlequin: Clearing everything in the cache,cookies and stuff does solve it for me (that and a clean reboot)

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    cbae

    ,Harlequin wrote

    Oddly when my IE9 crashed 4 months or so ago, and I got this password-wipe issue, my IE also had the "Your most popular sites" page not work anymore. All 10 squares had nothing in them, and clearing cache and nothing worked. Then one day it just started working again, so it might have been an IE update/fix that did that for me.

    I haven't had an IE9 crash in months, and I've never lost passwords when this happened before. The loss of passwords is always due to a CPU overheating/Windows freeze issue and forced cold boot.

    I actually get a lot more Chrome crashes due to the Adobe Flash plugin. It actually happens quite often, but the passwords are never lost thankfully.

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    Harlequin

    For me it was just a power outage that wiped passwords and killed the new tab UI boxes.

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