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Will there be a Build conference 2012?

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    hwah

    @PaoloM:  I don't think MS will stop pushing for the adoptation for both Win8 and WP8. If they release the product in the Fall and didn't do any push on the development community (and wait for TechEd 2013), the products may just won't make it.  So, I still have faith that there will be a Build this year...  Anyone reading this post, what do you think?

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    Ian2

    I don;t think there will be a (US based) Build this year but I would be surprised if there wasn't a largish developer conference prior to the launch of Windows 8 and Surface devices.

    (But Sinofsky does things differently and has great influence so we will have to wait and see).

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    hwah

    May be Sinosfsky will announce something in WPC... Keep my fingers crossed. 

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    felix9

    Hmmm.... the 2 days long Windows Phone Developers Summit had become Windows Phone Summit which was just a keynote.

    Where are all the sessions about WP8 development ??? come with the SDK ? this summer ?

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    Dieterdp

    What I hear is late October. Someone told me the location would be Las Vegas, but I don't think that's correct.

    And what can they talk about? We know the Windows 8 Developer Story, The Windows Phone 8 Developer story is almost the same.

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    felix9

    WP8 may have similiar underlying platform as W8, but the exact API surface should be quite different. so dev events are needed. and apparently there will be, but not as big as BUILD/PDC I guess.

    https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd/Europe/2012/WPH201

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    hchwa

    Perhaps there may be a join development centric event for Windows 8, Windows Phone 8 and Windows Azure... Just a gut feeling.   Angel

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    ESgarbi

    I went to the build last year and I could be wrong but it just seems to be very late in the year for MS to announce any big conference at this point.

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    Ian2

    Maybe it will be about a lot of smaller events this time?

    http://stacked.thestack.co.uk/

    http://remixsouth2012.eventbrite.com/

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    hchwa

    Not matter how late... As long as MS announced (if there is one), it will sold out for sure.

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    felix9

    and also DevConnections http://devconnections.com/

    Well, I found some statements about WindowsRuntime on Windows Phone 8 here

    http://devconnections.com/shows/fall2012/sessions.aspx?s=190

    VRT417: Building Shared Metro Apps for Microsoft Surface and Windows Phone
    Nick Landry
    Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 now share a common core. WinRT is the common denominator.

    while on the other hand, he says:

    The differences are also more than skin deep. Windows Phone 8 supports all Windows Phone 7.5 applications, which were based on Silverlight 4 and XNA. Windows 8 Metro is all WinRT but has a .NET profile for Metro apps.

    what the hell ?

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    Charles

    @felix9: The Windows Phone Summit is the best place to learn about WP8's connection to Windows 8.
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    Dieterdp

    was there more info at WPC 2012 about BUILD ?

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    ESgarbi

    Maybe tomorrow with the MS Office 15 announcements? Or there is no Build 2012 at all... who knows... 

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    AndyC

    , felix9 wrote

    what the hell ?

    Windows 8 runs Win32, .NET, Silverlight, DOS and various other flavours of app as well as WinRT apps, some of which can be based on a subset of .NET. Whether you choose to write for WinRT or Win32/.NET desktop apps is dependent significantly upon what your application does and where it lives best (as a Metro app or on the desktop). WinRT here is the beginnings of the next-gen Windows APIs, it'll be some time before it can comfortably replace everything.

    Windows Phone 8 runs all the old Windows Phone 7 apps, be they XNA or Silverlight, but it also has a WinRT API which can use a subset of .NET (just as Windows 8 does). WinRT is absolutely the future of Windows Phones applications and is what you should target if you're looking to Windows Phone 8 and beyond. In this case Silverlight/XNA should definitely be considered legacy APIs and probably not worth targetting for new applications.

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    cbae

    , AndyC wrote

    *snip*

    WinRT is absolutely the future of Windows Phones applications and is what you should target if you're looking to Windows Phone 8 and beyond. In this case Silverlight/XNA should definitely be considered legacy APIs and probably not worth targetting for new applications.

    You can target whatever you want. Just put all of your business logic and view modesl into portable class libraries.

    http://blogs.interknowlogy.com/2012/07/09/make-portable-libraries-your-go-to-project-template/

     

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    AndyC

    @cbae: True and that's great advice. For the little bits that don't suit though, WinRT or DirectX on the phone is probably a better long term bet than Silverlight/XNA. Especially if you haven't already got skills in those areas.

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