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Win Phone 8.1 beef.

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    Blue Ink

    , magicalclick wrote

    @cbae:

    I just tried it. Hold Cortana and say Play Next Song. The Play Previous Song is not so great because the music player will just restart the song. By the time you say the command again, it is too late.

    Yes, that should be fixed. I know it mimics how the prev button works, but it just feels dumb.

    On a positive note, you can ask for a specific track by name, which is insanely cool. The whole music interaction was nice, down to the non-obvious "Play something".

     

     

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , spivonious wrote

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    You shouldn't be using your phone while driving anyway. What about voice control?

    , bondsbw wrote

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    Those things can be distracting too.  Studies (for example this one) suggest that such influences can cause crashes more often than phone use, particularly calling (but perhaps not more than texting).  In any case, it isn't fair to assume that operating equipment inside your vehicle is safe.

    Why don't you guys just say "You're holding it wrong?"

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    magicalclick

    I don't know this is a good thing or not. But MS is de-hubbing the WP. It now looks closer to iOS or Android with different themes. I guess it is a good thing because that's what is popular right now.

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    spivonious

    @DeathByVisualStudio: Distracted driving is a big deal to me, since I regularly bicycle to and from work. If the phone is mounted in a place where it can be easily swiped to skip songs, that's fine. If the driver needs to pick it up off of the passenger seat, press the unlock button, swipe up, enter their password, and then swipe to skip the song, they've already run me over.

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    spivonious

    , magicalclick wrote

    I don't know this is a good thing or not. But MS is de-hubbing the WP. It now looks closer to iOS or Android with different themes. I guess it is a good thing because that's what is popular right now.

    I just read a user review of the Lumia Icon that didn't like the People hub because it grabbed data from everywhere and put it in one place. I don't understand that myself; the aggregation is one of my favorite features of WP.

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    magicalclick

    @spivonious:

    obviously some people like to read feeds from dedicated apps because they have different persona on different apps. And in the end, the hub always feels lacking compare to dedicated app, whether that's true or mot. That's the impression.

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    bondsbw

    , spivonious wrote

    I just read a user review of [NEW PRODUCT] that didn't like the [THING] because it [MADE SENSE AND IS USEFUL]. I don't understand that myself; [THING] is one of my favorite features of [NEW PRODUCT].

    This summarizes pretty much half the threads here.

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    wkempf

    @spivonious: My phone is mounted near the review mirror. Since it's a Nokia device, a double tap wakes it and a single swipe unlocks it. With a decent interface from there it would be a swipe or two for anything necessary. All without the need to look at the phone, even. All in all, as safe as turning up the volume on the radio. I actually do this with audible today, but I have to "prime" the phone first before I start driving. I want the phone to do this for me when it enters driving mode.

    Voice control is nice, and in many cases will be even better than having to tap, tap, swipe, swipe. Of course, today you still have to reach out and activate voice. It might be smart for Cortana to enter an "always listening" state when in driving mode. Of course, some people would like always listening to be the behavior all the time, like on some Motorola Android phones. "Cortana, call my wife" without having to even take the phone out of my pocket or press any buttons on my Bluetooth radio when I'm connected. That would be nice.

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    magicalclick

    @bondsbw:

    I guess. Some people here didn't like the new Win8.1 Metro app Pin in taskbar, and optionally appears in taskbar. I personally don't care much about the optional feature. I disabled it without making a post about it. But, some people feel the need to express themselves that they disabled a new optional feature. I don't care about People Hub actually. I don't use it, but, I can live with it easily.

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    magicalclick

    @wkempf:

    Sounds good to me. Have Cortana to always listen by user configurable conditions. This would be neat.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , spivonious wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio: Distracted driving is a big deal to me, since I regularly bicycle to and from work. If the phone is mounted in a place where it can be easily swiped to skip songs, that's fine. If the driver needs to pick it up off of the passenger seat, press the unlock button, swipe up, enter their password, and then swipe to skip the song, they've already run me over.

    That's all well and good but I doubt that's the reason this feature was left out. The phone doesn't know you're driving.

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    blowdart

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

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    That's all well and good but I doubt that's the reason this feature was left out. The phone doesn't know you're driving.

    It can do. There's driving mode :D

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , blowdart wrote

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    It can do. There's driving mode :D

    LOL. And we've come full circle.

     

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    magicalclick

    Correction, it is very weird, but the new IE re-compute the tab if I closed it from Hold Back. It takes several seconds to recompute the page and display it, but, the content is old. It didn't actually reload/refresh the page. Not sure why the existing rendering is lost.

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    boxtype

    Can anyone confirm if we can create custom playlists directly on the phone?
    That was one of the my greatest "WTF Microsoft" moments, when I couldn't, and then found out there was no way to do it on the phone.

     

     

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    Sven Groot

    , blowdart wrote

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    It can do. There's driving mode :D

    Which can be automatically activated by detecting the Bluetooth connection to your car. So it doesn't technically know you're driving, it does know you're in your car with the ignition on. :)

    Also, my car Bluetooth thingy has prev/next buttons, I prefer to use that to skip songs. I thought that was fairly standard? If your car has built-in Bluetooth the controls are probably on the steering wheel too.

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    PerfectPhase

    @boxtype:Yes, yes you can, they sync and everything :)

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , Sven Groot wrote

    *snip*

    Which can be automatically activated by detecting the Bluetooth connection to your car. So it doesn't technically know you're driving, it does know you're in your car with the ignition on. :)

    Also, my car Bluetooth thingy has prev/next buttons, I prefer to use that to skip songs. I thought that was fairly standard? If your car has built-in Bluetooth the controls are probably on the steering wheel too.

    Bluetooth? What's that? I use headphones when driving in the car. :)

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