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    magicalclick

    What's your thought about it? Pulling from Bing Cache of the NeoWin leaked power point slide. It says that Windows8 will have roaming profile on the cloud. I wonder how it works. But, I am very interested.

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    magicalclick

    One thing is very important is trying to login to your cloud account in a God-Knows-What-PC. I can imagine a simple model where you can login with very limited previlege on to the God-Knows-What-PC. Surely the user cannot do bad things to the target PC. However, here lies the scary part. Assume God-Knows-What-PC has all sorts of badies installed, what happen to your cloud data after you login using your cloud account? It is possible that once I logon, the crazy host PC starts to remove my cloud data.

    If I only allow read-only-cloud-access to God-Knows-What-PC, then, the system is crippled. It is similar to the case of using Live Mesh on unknown machines. It will be dangerous.

    How are they going to make a compelling user experience out of this?

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    RLO

    Color me not impressed with the "Cloud".  It's just new marketing speak about the same technologies that have existed for a decade.

    That being said, from what I have read, this is merely an implementation of the roaming profile that sysadmins have been using for years.  You will log on to a "Bing" domain, that will map your documents, music, etc, and your applications settings to a network drive that exists on MS's servers.  Because of that the GKWPC will have its current user registry settings overridden by the domain controller ie Bing DC when you log on to it, I don't see the danger you describe.

    Should there be a "data corruption" as you describe, then you could easily use the previous versions/shadow copy technologies to restore your data.

    If I am wrong, I am sure to be corrected, but I am just not that impressed with the concept.  Then again I wasn't impressed with the iPhone either.  So who am I to judge.

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    Bas

    @magicalclick: My thoughts on it were: "Really? Windows Live Wave 5 in 2012? Do they really think they can stay relevant with a two year release cycle nowadays?" followed shortly by "Why wasn't all this stuff in Wave 4? Aren't they 'all in' with the cloud?"

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    magicalclick

    @RLO:

    I am pretty sure there are some services are activated before login screen. And after you logged in, the service is still running. And that is scary.

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    exoteric

    Do you have a link to what you are referring to?

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    ZippyV

    @exoteric: The link is probably still on microsoft.com. It was presented by someone from Microsoft UK. They have no idea what's going on with Windows 8 right now.

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    AndyC

    @RLO: I'd really hope not. Roaming Profiles are epically rubbish even for the incredibly slim number of situations where they actually can make sense. I'd be worrying about losing my data even without the issues that arrive from logging into a god-knows-what-PC.

    If anything a much more simplistic option of syncing things like favourites and read RSS feeds between machines would be about a million times more useful than roaming profiles.

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    RLO

    @AndyC: I agree that a real roaming profile would be rubbish.  But it seems to me that is what is being proposed in all but name.  Synchronization of settings: i.e. Favorites, Feeds, Application Settings, and remapping the documents to a skydrive folder isn't that far fetched.  Do I like the idea? Nope.  Not so much for the data corruption issues, as so much as I like local storage.  Until Windows 8 comes out, we really have no idea what they really mean by cloud.  We could be looking at something similar to Apple's MobileMe in the end.

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    cheong

    In remotely relevent thought of what this may enable, that may make "per user" licensing model possible.

    When you store all your licensing information on cloud, suddenly the softwares do not need to bother checking license on installation. They'd just check the local store or cloud to see if the current user has right to use such software. The system admins could just "Ghost" the PC's partitions for deployments like what they used to in the old days and not worry about licensing implications there.

    That said, it's already possible with live mesh now, just no software vendors bothered to implement solutions this way.

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    Dovella

    , magicalclick wrote

    What's your thought about it? Pulling from Bing Cache of the NeoWin leaked power point slide. It says that Windows8 will have roaming profile on the cloud. I wonder how it works. But, I am very interested.

     

     

    1st Windows 8 is design for Tablet

    2  for cloud

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