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    MasterPi

    Source: The Verge

    So that we don't have a circlejerk with the whole "I told you so guys. zomg backtrack!," the rumor is that they're bringing back the start menu as an option (not to replace), along the lines of the boot to desktop option.

    Another big thing is what a lot of us have wanted for a while -  the ability to run metro apps in windowed mode on the desktop.

    Basically, they're baking Start8/ModernMix functionality into the UI. But this release is also supposed to bring the three OSes in line in terms of APIs, etc. I wonder if there will be any further WP influences ending up in the UI.

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    cbae

    , MasterPi wrote

    So that we don't have a circlejerk with the whole "I told you so guys. zomg backtrack!," the rumor is that they're bringing back the start menu as an option (not to replace), along the lines of the boot to desktop option.

    Meh. I'm through with drill-down menus.

    Another big thing is what a lot of us have wanted for a while is the ability to run metro apps in windowed mode on the desktop.

    *snip*

    +∞

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    TexasToast

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    Meh. I'm through with drill-down menus.

    *snip*

    +∞

     

    We love drill down menus in Texas.   Bring them back and lets keep drilling.

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    cbae

    , TexasToast wrote

    *snip*

     

    We love drill down menus in Texas.   Bring them back and lets keep drilling.

    Texas can frack off. Wink

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    elmer

    , MasterPi wrote

    Basically, they're baking Start8/ModernMix functionality into the UI.

    The real haters will still find something to complain about, but I suspect that the majority of desktop/laptop users would be satisfied with those changes, and having the option of selecting the UI mode that best suits their needs.

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    TexasToast

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    Texas can frack off. Wink

    Yes we will.   We keep getting richer down here.

    http://assets.nybooks.com/media/photo/2012/02/15/mckibben_2-030812.jpg

     

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    kettch

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    Meh. I'm through with drill-down menus.

    This. I can't even remember the last time I clicked All Programs on my Windows 7 machine at work.

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    MasterPi

    , cbae wrote

    Meh. I'm through with drill-down menus.

    The only thing I want from the start menu (and taskbar in general) is jumplists. Not sure how they'd surface that functionality in a metro environment.

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    blowdart

    Awww, rumours treated as fact. That always works well.

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    elmer

    , blowdart wrote

    Awww, rumours treated as fact. That always works well.

    Oh come on... "un-named sources say" - that pretty solid stuff there.

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    kettch

    @blowdart: It's true! Alan Mulally said so!

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    cbae

    , TexasToast wrote

    *snip*

    Yes we will.   We keep getting richer down here.

    http://assets.nybooks.com/media/photo/2012/02/15/mckibben_2-030812.jpg

     

    Boom, bust, boom, bust, boom, bust...

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    JoshRoss

    I don't see why people aren't writing really awesome Windows 8 apps yet. Hello?! Car 53 where are you?

    Seriously, Windows is stuffed with so many APIs that you could make a porno out of it.

    edit:

    In practice, I have no idea how this would work.

    -Josh

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    felix9

    if I'm the designer, I would just make the start screen snappable, and auto snapped in the left if pressed the start button from desktop task bar, and the snapped view is a compact app list, this should resemble the start menu. this could be also valuable for pure metro apps as it let you start another app without leaving the current context. right ?

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    Dr Herbie

    @felix9: No, I would leave the start screen in its full-screen incarnation, but I would add MRU lists (and/or MFU lists) as this is the only thing the start menu has that the start screen doesn't; you can already just start typing an application's name and get to it fast just like the start menu.

    I think the UI needs a shake-up. There are issues with the Metro interface (like no indicators that you can click on something), but on the whole I think it's a good move to make things more full-screen oriented with fast switching.

    Herbie

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    MasterPi

    , Dr Herbie wrote

    I think the UI needs a shake-up. There are issues with the Metro interface (like no indicators that you can click on something), but on the whole I think it's a good move to make things more full-screen oriented with fast switching.

    There's no indication that the share charm does anything useful. On my nontouch laptop, I use the settings and search charms a lot. Whenever I go to a tablet, I completely forget that I can just Share stuff with apps.

    I'm also still waiting for something to be done about mouse right click -> should it really open the app context menu?

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    Bas

    If something isn't obviously clickable (like emails in a list) it has a border around it. I don't see a need to make that any clearer, although undoubtedly there are many crappy apps in the store that ignore this guideline. If anything, the store needs better quality control.

    , MasterPi wrote

    *snip*

    There's no indication that the share charm does anything useful. On my nontouch laptop, I use the settings and search charms a lot. Whenever I go to a tablet, I completely forget that I can just Share stuff with apps.

    I'm also still waiting for something to be done about mouse right click -> should it really open the app context menu?

    I've yet to do anything useful with the share charm too. It's complicated to build stuff for and the number of times you can do stuff with it is very small. 

    Right click should open the app context menu. That's how it works in desktop mode too.

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    MasterPi

    @Bas: I was talking about in metro-mode. You have to travel all the way to the bottom of the screen each time. Why can't we just auto generate options in a normal context menu for mouse users?

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