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Windows Movie Maker alternative?

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  • Harlequin

    Wife is making a thing for end of school adding photos and music, and Movie Maker is crapping out on processing it into a video. Trying Ezvid, but it's a bit simplistic and hard to use.

    Anyone have an alternative?

  • Dr Herbie

    I've noticed Movie Maker crapping out too.  But a few months ago it was fine.  Not sure if an update has broken it.


  • JoshRoss

    Does Microsoft Photo Story work still?

  • Ian2

    I use it from time to time and it has always been great (not used it for the last 6 months or so though)


  • Dr Herbie

    I found a short list of free movie editing software (Movie Maker was at the top of the list), and I've decided to give VSDC a try so I'll post a review this evening after trying it out.


  • GoddersUK

    @Harlequin:Dumb question, perhaps, but have you tried WL Movie Maker? (Or is that what you're referring to as Windows Movie Maker?)

  • Hometoy

    I had a slideshow I was making for our cub scouts and it kept failing on rendering.  It bascially kept using up RAM and not releasing any of it so it eventually would run out and fail.  I used my wife's laptop with 6 GB of RAM and got either 10 or 15 minutes worth of video rendered.

    If I had more time, I guess I could have tried reducing the size of the images but I don't know if that would have made that big of a difference or not.

    What about the Windows Live DVD authoring application?

  • Ian2

    Assume that it is Windows Live Movie Maker that we are having issues with ....

  • Dr Herbie

    Actually, I just received an email from Ashampoo allowing me to 'name my price' for several products, including Burning Studio 12. The least they would let me pay was £10.50 (instead of the full £34.99).  It has some editing facilities, so I shall give that a go as well.  I think this offer is only being offered to people already registered with them (and it's tied to user ID, so I can't really share it).


  • Harlequin

    Yeah, she was using Live Movie Maker. Throws up on large projects(30 min *sad*). So best to do videos in pieces and put them together after.

  • Hometoy

    Yeah, try breaking it into 2 (15 min) if you have abotu 6 GB of RAM or more, and one of these others listed above may be able to splice them together.

    I haven't tried Adobe Premier to see if it does better.  I like the simplicity and ease of use of WLMM but this limitation is the pits!

  • itsnotabug

    does it have to be free? i've played with them all and imho, sony vegas if the perfect balance of power and ease of use for basic stuff... even the consumer version is powerful.

    if you're looking for free, it's no contest that lightworks is the best: (not as easy to get into though... but very powerful for pro use).

  • Ian2

    @itsnotabug:I have a copy of Sony Vegas* but I have found that nothing beats the no nonsense / simplistic approach of Movie Maker.

    (Ironically I would probably only look at Vegas again if MM fails me or if I was doing something in 3D)


    * Movie Studio HD Platinum - which is one of the many budget versions of Vegas.

  • Bas

    I've been looking for free stuff as well, but sadly, Movie Maker is pretty much the best free thing out there. Can't get it to work properly on the laptop for some reason, but on the desktop it's great for editing together youtube-length clips. I still wish they hadn't gotten rid of that "bucket of clips + timeline" inteface though. The new one works once you get used to it, but it's not better, so what was I spending that time getting used to it for?

    I remember when Silverlight was announced there was a pretty sweet video editor demo in that. I wonder whatever happened to it.


    Edit: I guess this is it? I seem to recall it looking a bit more.. whimsical. Not sure what this is.

  • Dr Herbie

    Played with Lightworks, Ashampoo Burning Studio and VSDC last night:

    Lightworks -- pretty good!  There is a learning curve, but there are some 'Getting Started' videos on their website. Loading an MP4 resulted in the sound being out of synch by a few seconds, but the software has the tools to re-align the audio (when I finally worked it out).  My only worry is that they automatically give you a 30-day trial of their Pro version and I don't know what features might be removed when this runs out.

    Burning Studio -- not worth it for video editing (but will create DVDs with menus, etc, of your finished film).

    VSDC -- fairly easy to use, but poorly documented.  On my third attempt I managed to get the edit I wanted, but then it crashed on me before I could save. I might still persevere until I export an edit to compare the output with Lightworks.


    Summary:  Lightworks the frontrunner for now.

  • itsnotabug

    @Ian2: Fair enough... I haven't played with Windows Movie Maker since it was first released but I do remember it being surprisingly quick and to the point.

    The killer features for me with Vegas:

    1) Audio is a first class citizen - the whole thing reminds me of an old school audio editor/mixing desk. VSTs are supported and the built-in Sony dynamics are world class. 

    2) Automatic crossfades of audio AND video (with adjustable curves) if you just overlap video or audio tracks on the timeline - HUGE TIMESAVER

    3) Editing is dead easy right on the timeline. there is no forced antiquated analogy that most nle's embrace (although it's there if you want to use that analogy). Split a clip by just pressing 's' and delete the trim. you can do a lot of your editing by just knowing that 1 hotkey.


  • Hometoy

    If you have an RT device, seems like a very timely article here about Video editors in Windows RT

  • onexpat

    I use AppGeeker for transcoding and VirtualDub for video editing. 
    Nice and simple at least.

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