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Windows Tablet : the sheriff is ready

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    Royal​Schrubber

    So there are desktop apps and there are IE10 apps?

    Good thing I've bought iPad, because when Windows 8 comes out I'll still have the most advanced piece of tech there is. They are building Vista 2 and this time they won't even be able to fix it with Windows 7 2.. Windows is sinking fast, I hope they would just kick Ballmer and install someone with more than one braincell.. bah.. such a disappointment..  

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    Dr Herbie

    Looks like: "Windows 8, now with more features that you'll never use!"

    And HTML5/JS for core apps?  WTF? It's not even standardised yet!

     

    Herbie

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    W3bbo

    , Dr Herbie wrote

    Looks like: "Windows 8, now with more features that you'll never use!"

    And HTML5/JS for core apps?  WTF? It's not even standardised yet!

    It isn't standardised yet, but most of the features you can use today are already stable and most likely not going to change. I think they should hurry up and agree on a syntax for CSS3 gradients, animations, and transitions because they're all different right now and I don't fancy using any vendor-specific CSS in 'application code' that might stick around for years after IE10, 11, and 12 have been around.

    Also, £5 says Microsoft will reboot IE's version numbering by the time it hits 11 or 12.

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    Dovella

    @RoyalSchrubber:

    this was a presentation for  consumer,not for developers. your kind of commentsa re acceptable only after September 13

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    AndyC

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    Also I feel bad for all of the WP7 owners out there now knowing what they have in their hands was just another Kin or Zune. Thank you for joining yet another Microsoft experiment.

    Putting Windows 8 on the phone? Didn't they try that once already and ended up with WinCE because it wasn't performant?

    I don't really see it that way, it's more like back in the days when NT and 9x were ultimately to be merged. You might well target one or the other depending upon the specifics, but ultimately the end product would run either. The fact that Windows will essentially be using the basic full-screen, Live Tile approach that underpins the WP7 model suggests they're both heading in the same direction.

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    W3bbo

    , AndyC wrote

    I don't really see it that way, it's more like back in the days when NT and 9x were ultimately to be merged. You might well target one or the other depending upon the specifics, but ultimately the end product would run either. The fact that Windows will essentially be using the basic full-screen, Live Tile approach that underpins the WP7 model suggests they're both heading in the same direction.

    It's a shame really, I was hoping the CE kernel would be the future now that modern machines are fast enough to make up for the latencies introduced with microkernel architecture.

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    AndyC

    , W3bbo wrote

    *snip*

    It's a shame really, I was hoping the CE kernel would be the future now that modern machines are fast enough to make up for the latencies introduced with microkernel architecture.

    When everything is HTML+Javascript it could well be, although I'm not really sure there will be all that much of a difference in reality.

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    Dovella

    • Windows 8 will be able to run on a wide range of machines because it will have the same system requirements or lower.
    • Support for AMD Llano processor.
    • "Not multiple versions of Windows, just one version of Windows running on all of them."
    • Qualcomm, NVIDIA and TI for ARM reference designs.
    • Snapdragon with "always on, always connected." mode.
    • NVIDIA's quad-core Kal-El support,
    • Whether x86 or ARM, same app expereince.
    • OEM Activation 3.0
    • 1366 x 768 resolution for the best Windows 8 experience and 1024 x 600 for normal Windows experience.
    • We have some recommendations on bezel sizes so you can easily hold the system and edge to edge glass screen.
    • Support for SSD's and wide range of sensors.
    • http://microsoft-news.com/windows-8-hardware-specifications/

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    spivonious

    I think MS has done a fantastic job. Windows 8 will rule the tablet, desktop, and TV. Not sure about phones. Sinofsky should definitely be made CEO.

    Any word on battery life of a tablet running a full multi-tasking OS?

    I doubt HTML5/JS will be the only platform for Win8 apps; it's just that it's the new "AppX" package we've been hearing about. Lots of apps still go straight to the win32 API, so there's no reason to worry about the death of Silverlight/WPF.

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    Ray7

    This looks like the same old strategy to me: a shiny new face with twenty years of legacy poking through to remind you that it's a desktop operating system shoehorned into a tablet.

    MS can't afford to change. What they have been trying to do for the past decade is convince their customers that they don't want to change either.

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    BitFlipper

    Sorry I don't get it. HTML5/JS only? I really can't see myself writing apps with that. There are things you just can't do with HTML5/JS, so I don't quite get this.

    For instance, try to create a high-performance multithreaded music application in HTML5/JS. Something like those music mixing apps. Or a complex 3D game. And how does it take advantage of things like, say, multiple monitors?

    Hopefully this HTML5/JS junk is just one of the options, not the one and only option. If this is the only option, then I'm afraid I lost all interest...

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