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Wp7 Update : Wait a momento pls. @microsoft AND ONLY MICROSOFT

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    daSmirnov

    Not quite how the website is phrasing it, which claims phone companies are resonsible for hosting updates, which they are not.

    Mobile companies can block an update from going out, for a maximum duration of one update cycle.  Microsoft still host the updates, control the updates etc, but can at the request of a carrier it can be put on hold.

    I doubt you're going to be seeing this happening much to be honest.  I think they just needed a safely line in there in case on some configuration it could kill the device.  Now the mobile phone companies can test it, if problems arise on their setup ask Microsoft to hold it back.

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    Dovella

    Can Microsoft confirm this?

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    blowdart

    @Dovella: Once again why not ask them in the Windows Phone forum where actual Windows Phone team members would be watching?

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    PerfectPhase

    @blowdart: Do you know where it is, the end user fourm that is?  I can only find the developers forum at http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windowsphone

     EDIT as soon as I post this I find it http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsphone7/threads

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    OrigamiCar

    @Dovella:

    Original article has been updated:

    "Update:

    My fellow editor Pradeep has gotten a confirmation with Oded Ran, head of Windows Phone 7 marketing in the UK that the updates will come directly from Microsoft and not the carriers. I still hope that Microsoft will post a clear detailed statement on how the updates will be delivered and what the carriers involvement if any, will be."

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    magicalclick

    Not sure how it can be carrier based in the first place. Because if carrier do it, I would think they will include some hacks that will unlock the customization lock down and start to lock in their own GUI and doing all sorts of crazy stuff.

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    Dovella

    , OrigamiCar wrote

    @Dovella:

    Original article has been updated:

    "Update:

    My fellow editor Pradeep has gotten a confirmation with Oded Ran, head of Windows Phone 7 marketing in the UK that the updates will come directly from Microsoft and not the carriers. I still hope that Microsoft will post a clear detailed statement on how the updates will be delivered and what the carriers involvement if any, will be."

    I Agree

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    W3bbo

    , magicalclick wrote

    Not sure how it can be carrier based in the first place. Because if carrier do it, I would think they will include some hacks that will unlock the customization lock down and start to lock in their own GUI and doing all sorts of crazy stuff.

    In feature phones that was so carriers could strong-arm users into buying overpriced (and over-licensed) ring-tones from proprietary services, same goes for wallpapers and other things like it. Well actually, carriers don't care who you buy them off, because the method of delivery is restricted to MMS messages which you'd have to pay to receive, so they win regardless.

    By allowing customisation like this (aka 'side-loading') it stops that lucrative revenue stream.

    It's the same reason many carriers often disabled Bluetooth file transfer too, so if you wanted to exchange photos or files with friends you had to do it via expensive MMS messages.

    The increase in the popularity of smartphones that require these features be enabled means that operators are reduced to being dumb carriers where the only commodities customers consume are talk minutes and packet-based connections (why pay £0.07 for an SMS when you can send an IM for a hundreth the cost?), and by doing that they're forced to compete on price, which is bad for them. Also the number of operators is so small and requires significant investment to enter the market means we have a de-facto cartel.

    This is why I genuinely salute Apple for putting the carriers in their place by not allowing any operator-imposed restrictions on their phones. Microsoft is doing the same thing, not to the same extent, which really isn't excusable if their product is supposed to be at the same level as the iPhone, otherwise WP7 is just a glorified featurephone, much like how the iPhone was at launch.

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