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XBox One: I'd love to see Microsoft pull a card out of their sleeve.

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  • csinger

    I have been following the various news on the XBox One and I am pretty excited by what its future holds.  I think Build will be very interesting (here's hoping for an actual App store - getting a native Plex client would be awesome).

    The one thing that I think is currently a big miss is the XBox 360 experience.  Because the XBox One doesn't have backwards compatibility, one needs to have both devices.  Well, that potentially means the need to keep around 2 Kinect devices which is a bit unwieldily.

    So here is the "card" that I hope Microsoft hasn't shown.  I would love to see the 360 daisy chain with the XBox One.  I'd love to see that in fact they have two HDMI inputs but chose to keep one of them hidden for this unveiling.  I could see one going to a cable box and the other plus a USB connection to the 360.  Now you have a way for the XBox one to control the 360.  The Kinect could even pass through from the XBox One to the 360 over the USB interface.  Just a firmware update to the 360 and everything works.  With the new 360 styling it even looks like it could fit as a daughter device.

    I think that would be a killer maneuver.

    Anyways, one can dream can't they?

  • evildictait​or

    Sadly I think it is just that; a dream.

    Adding extra ports and so on would push the component price up, and the Xbox is already hurting from being so much more expensive than the PS4.

    That's not to say you couldn't invent some component a bit like that yourself and sell it at $100 a pop to anyone who's interested. But it doesn't sound like Microsoft is likely to do anything like that for "out of the box" Xbox Ones any time soon.

  • Michael Butler

    , csinger wrote

    I have been following the various news on the XBox One and I am pretty excited by what its future holds.  I think Build will be very interesting (here's hoping for an actual App store - getting a native Plex client would be awesome).

    The one thing that I think is currently a big miss is the XBox 360 experience.  Because the XBox One doesn't have backwards compatibility, one needs to have both devices.  Well, that potentially means the need to keep around 2 Kinect devices which is a bit unwieldily.

    So here is the "card" that I hope Microsoft hasn't shown.  I would love to see the 360 daisy chain with the XBox One.  I'd love to see that in fact they have two HDMI inputs but chose to keep one of them hidden for this unveiling.  I could see one going to a cable box and the other plus a USB connection to the 360.  Now you have a way for the XBox one to control the 360.  The Kinect could even pass through from the XBox One to the 360 over the USB interface.  Just a firmware update to the 360 and everything works.  With the new 360 styling it even looks like it could fit as a daughter device.

    I think that would be a killer maneuver.

    Anyways, one can dream can't they?

     

    i like your thinking, but think it would be unlikely. I want to see if I can plug a PS4 into the HDMI in of the Xbox One and swap between PS4 games and XBox games Wink

  • bondsbw

    If Microsoft could find that money, they could potentially just couple a cheap PowerPC processor to augment the processing power in the XBox One to support 360 emulation.  As an optional configuration, the price boost would be well worth it to many gamers (who could sell their 360 for that cost or more), and would give Microsoft something that the PS4 lacks.

  • Lizard​Rumsfeld

    , bondsbw wrote

    If Microsoft could find that money, they could potentially just couple a cheap PowerPC processor to augment the processing power in the XBox One to support 360 emulation.  As an optional configuration, the price boost would be well worth it to many gamers (who could sell their 360 for that cost or more), and would give Microsoft something that the PS4 lacks.

    That would significantly change the thermals, this will simply not happen.  Especially when they're still selling the 360.

  • kettch

    What they could do with all of that Azure back-end is spin up older games in some kind of Xbox VM and provide an OnLive type of service that's streamed down to the One.

  • dahat

    , bondsbw wrote

    If Microsoft could find that money, they could potentially just couple a cheap PowerPC processor to augment the processing power in the XBox One to support 360 emulation.  As an optional configuration, the price boost would be well worth it to many gamers (who could sell their 360 for that cost or more), and would give Microsoft something that the PS4 lacks.

    While that would probably be a useful feature to some... for how long? And at what price to everyone?

    While on paper it would seem simple to put a compatible chip or SW into the new console, there would be a cost, what I don't know, but non-zero for sure... and a cost that would be built in to every single Xbox One that is sold for the next the next 5-10 years.

    Sure it could be part of an 'optional' configuration... but then you are simply making complex what is ordinarily a simple system. You've got to admit that it's a wonderful thing that regardless of if you have a launch day Xbox 360... or one of the new One themed ones... the games work just the same.

    Note I say the above with absolutely no specific insights as to how the Xbox team makes decisions as to anything... just my wild speculation.

  • chb

    I for one hope there's a way to easily port win8 apps to xbox one. A shared appstore would be even better.

  • Dirtbagg

    , kettch wrote

    What they could do with all of that Azure back-end is spin up older games in some kind of Xbox VM and provide an OnLive type of service that's streamed down to the One.

    That would be the great way to do it.

  • DCMonkey

    , Dirtbagg wrote

    *snip*

    That would be the great way to do it.

    And is apparently what Sony is going to do for PS3 games with their Gakai service.

  • cheong

    The way they want to control second hand game market has pissed off many gamers.

    Sony has made an AD on how to share a PS4 game to attack this point.

    1 second vs. 30 days, the time difference is... WTF.

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