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    Ray7

    … but do you really want it in your living room?

     

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    Bass

    Floor to ceiling windows. So everyone can see you crap.

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    Ray7

    Well, if you'd sold all your other furniture just so you could afford the iLav, then you'd probably want folk to see it too.

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    Bas

    So is there an SDK available for this thing?

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    BitFlipper

    I'll wait till the 1st patch becomes available...

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    W3bbo

    , Ray7 wrote

    … but do you really want it in your living room?

     

    Kohler want $6100 for their toilet.

    I won't deny it is very good looking and has all the right features I'd expect from a Japanese toilet. For that price you're paying for the design, because there are Japanese toilets with just as many features (except maybe the foot heater) for a significantly lower price (usually around $1000-$1500).

    I'm also wary about the electronic control requirements. That remote is going to get lost (or even flushed?) eventually, and sourcing replacements will be hard. This product will be a one-off from Kohler so I don't expect this product to have a useful lifespan past 5 years at most.

    You're better off with just importing a Japanese Washlet, they're cheaper and just as functional.

    But all of this is bad for us. Squatting is the best position to be in whilst taking a dump, not sitting upright as though you were at your desk. I want someone to make a squatting toilet with all the features of a Japanese washlet, then I'd be sold.

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    ScanIAm

    Seriously, though, when I lived there as a kid, I recall that japan still had plenty of non-sit toilets.  They were essentially porcelain holes in the floor and they kind of sucked if you were uncoordinated.

    Good times.

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    Sven Groot

    @ScanIAm: They still do. Smiley

    Japanese hole-in-the-ground toilets have at least one advantage over the French hole-in-the-ground toilets (which they often have at camp sites in France) though: at least the Japanese ones don't drown you in your own fecal matter when you try to flush them. Tongue Out

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    Blue Ink

    @W3bbo: they should replace the remote with a kinect...

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    JoshRoss

    It should come with some food processing accessories. It would be great if it could make some bread, while you are pinching a loaf. Or perhaps have the ability to spin some salad after tossing yours.

    I don't think that anything exciting should happen in a bathroom. If anything, it should muffle noises and smells or warn you if you might have some health issues, mental or otherwise.

    -Josh

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    W3bbo

    , Blue Ink wrote

    @W3bbo: they should replace the remote with a kinect...

    That would be a great application since it would be far more hygenic: no more touching any surfaces touched by people who just cleaned their bums!

    I think you're on to something there. I might even write up a formal project proposal to my academic supervisor.

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    JoshRoss

    @W3bbo: If people thought they had privacy worries now, just wait unit there are cameras in your toilet.

    Does the Kinect sensor work in the dark? And what would you wave in front of it? (This is a rhetorical question.)

    -Josh

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    W3bbo

    , JoshRoss wrote

    @W3bbo: If people thought they had privacy worries now, just wait unit there are cameras in your toilet.

    Does the Kinect sensor work in the dark? And what would you wave in front of it? (This is a rhetorical question.)

    I willfully disregard your parenthetical disclaimer Smiley

    The system does not need a visible-light camera, all the system is interested in is capturing body gestures which can be done with just the depth-sensing IR camera, which works in the dark because it provides its own source of illumination. This is good for privacy because the IR illuminator is actually visible (when a Kinect is running you can see the red light shimmering) so you know when you're being captured as opposed to entirely passive visible-light cameras.

    I propose a small number of arm gestures: with your arm straight (like a Hitler salute) which is lowered quickly (as though your arm were a cistern lever) the gesture would be used for flushing. The 'activate bidet' gesture could be raising your left arm vertically with a fist (which seems apt), the inverse ccould be used to deactivte the bidet.

    Alternatively, voice commands also work, but then other people might start wondering why you're talking to yourself on the commode.

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    Cream​Filling512

    I think the worst thing about this sort of toilet is you'd have to give any guests a 10 minute training lesson on how to use it.  The toilet in my apartment has two buttons for flushing, one for number one and number two, and that causes enough confusion as it is.

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    JoshRoss

    @W3bbo: Voice commands would bring new meaning to the phrase "bombs away."  

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    JoshRoss

    @CreamFilling512: I just have one handle. If you briefly hold it down, you get a half flush. If you sustain, you will get a full fush.

    -Josh 

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    W3bbo

    , Cream​Filling512 wrote

    I think the worst thing about this sort of toilet is you'd have to give any guests a 10 minute training lesson on how to use it.  The toilet in my apartment has two buttons for flushing, one for number one and number two, and that causes enough confusion as it is.

    That's a fault of the toilet designers, not the users. The best toilets have pictograms grooved into the cistern lid that clearly show which button is for a half-flush and a full-flush. The worst ones have that single "button" in the top that's split into two with no clue as to which button does what.

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    Sven Groot

    That would be a great application since it would be far more hygenic: no more touching any surfaces touched by people who just cleaned their bums!

    I think you're on to something there. I might even write up a formal project proposal to my academic supervisor.

    I don't mean to disappoint you or anything, but toilets that flush automatically by means of a motion sensor are already incredibly common...

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