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Your overall reaction to Win8 CP?

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    magicalclick

    What's your thought on Win8 CP? Me:

    Win8 for my new tablet = YES.

    Win8 to upgrade my Win7 Desktop = BIG NO NO NO.

    I will skip the details. I am not trying to bash the OS. I really really wish it is good, perhaps too much expectations? Anyway, my next desktop is Windows 7. Win8 is great, but, it needs lots of maturity before I hand over my important tasks to it.

    Share your thought.

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    Sven Groot

    My thoughts are similar. It's fine as long as you stay in the Metro environment. As soon as you want to do desktop stuff, the start screen becomes a huge hindrance.

    I do not want a full screen experience to launch applications.

    Nor do I want to pin everything I conceivably own to the taskbar, or start messing up the desktop with application icons (I've never used the desktop for launching anything since Win95).

    As long as it's not possible to use the desktop without ever seeing the start screen, it's unlikely that Win8 will ever become my primary OS.

    It also still suffers from the zigzag effect, which makes it very annoying to use with the mouse.

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    elmer

    Ha! - I just posted a similar comment on another thread... why can't it have a 'personality' mode I can select? If it's a desktop, why would you want to deal with the start-screen and metro as your primary UI - it's not just stupid, it's simply bizare. Forcing Windows users to become Metro Users is just giving them a valid reason to consider the alternatives.

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    magicalclick

    @Sven Groot:

    try play Solitaire. It takes me 5+ seconds to launch the game. And it doesn't register my mouse click properly. And the frame rate is horrible. I don't know it is my computer or what, but, it is unplayable. Pinball FX2 is much faster and it is 3D.  

    I suppose this game best describe my feeling toward Win8, although Solitaire is an extreme case.

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    figuerres

    Yep!   

    same here.... 

    so far this is *NOT* what I want for a desktop.

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    spivonious

    I agree. The whole metro UI just feels clunky and ineffiicient with a mouse. They should strip it out and have "Windows 8 Metro" for tablets and phones, and "Windows 8 Desktop" for desktops and laptops.

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    Bas

    The only real problem I have with the UI on the desktop is that the start screen is slow. That could be fixed by a simple launcher app that sort of replicates the old start menu's basic functionality: a list of shortcuts to all non-metro apps, and maybe an MRU list or something. Pin it as the first thing on the taskbar, make sure it always runs in the background (for speed), and there you have it.

    Apart from the start screen being slower than the start menu I don't really see a whole lot of problems with general desktop use… yet. The fact that the start screen is full screen honestly doesn't bother me. All desktop apps still overlap and resize, so that´s good too. I´m not sure what problems, apart from being slow to use, the start screen poses for people.

    I still have to play with it a while longer though, who knows what I'll run into.

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    evildictait​or

    , magicalclick wrote

    @Sven Groot:

    try play Solitaire. It takes me 5+ seconds to launch the game. And it doesn't register my mouse click properly. And the frame rate is horrible. I don't know it is my computer or what, but, it is unplayable. Pinball FX2 is much faster and it is 3D

    Let's be clear that the Win8 beta is a full checked build and thus will be slower than the release build.

    There are many reasons for not liking Windows8, but the speed of the Win8 beta is not one of them.

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    felix9

    Those touch-first gestures are not really natural for a mouse, like switching tasks, closing apps, activate charms/start/appbar etc. Metro is hard without touch, sigh.

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    Bas

    , felix9 wrote

    Those touch-first gestures are not really natural for a mouse, like switching tasks, closing apps, activate charms/start/appbar etc. Metro is hard without touch, sigh.

     

    Why are you using mouse gestures when you can just click the corners of the screen?

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    Richard.Hein

    Trying to figure out how to put Windows 8 to sleep reminds me of Samuel L. Jackson reading, "Go the F*ck to Sleep".

     

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    vesuvius

    @magicalclick:I have not managed to install it yet as I was having a DVD drivers error. Anyway, I have just purchased some blank DVD's and it is installing now.

    My initial reaction to the comments in threads, is that this your frustration was anticipated, with people like me meing maligned as anti-Microsoft when I am exactly the opposite. For something as important as Windows, they really should have spent an equal amount of resources on the traditional desktop as they did with the new metro. As it is, they have put all their eggs in one basket, and things are looking pretty bad. If you look at the Jensen Harris video, all he has to show is a new task manager, whilst pretty and functional it is hardly a compelling reason to upgrade for the 400 million+ existing users.

    Jason Zander stated that a lot of the databinding functionality is yet to be added to Metro style apps, and they all they are good for at present are RSS/JSON feeds and fart apps. Windows Vista was seen as a failure unjustifiably. Windows 8 is just not ready because it offers developers no compelling reason to create software for the platform. I will upgrade to Visual Studio 2012, but probably won go further than this beta

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    Bas

    , vesuvius wrote

    Jason Zander stated that a lot of the databinding functionality is yet to be added to Metro style apps, and they all they are good for at present are RSS/JSON feeds and fart apps.

    Source please, because this is obviously nonsense.

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    vesuvius
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    Bas

    Specific timecode where he says that all they are good for at present are RSS/JSON feeds and fart apps, please?

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    vesuvius

    @Bas: too busy at present, and the timecodes in IE 10 have a bug where it is showing as 1 hour extra. Watch the video, its half an hour well spent.

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    Bas

    If you're wondering about my ability to subtract an hour from a timecode, let me assure you that I'll be able to do that. I wonder about your ability to admit that you've been exaggerating, though.

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    vesuvius

    @Bas: I have not, watch the video.

    Don't get into an argument, when you have not seen the evidence - this is foolish. Speaking as someone that has written and launched 4 complex commercial apps in the visual Studio 2010 timeframe, those are my extrapolations.

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