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    Sven Groot

    @PaoloM: Or more, recently, how iOS6 maps was fecking useless on the day of release? And for some parts of the world (e.g. mine), still is?

    Sure, the maps app wasn't beta quality when they released it... that's because it was barely even alpha quality.

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    kettch

    @Sven Groot: I think you'll find that Maps are no longer necessary for the modern smartphone user. You don't really need to go anywhere. You should learn to accept where you are. Tongue Out

    Apple's MO: "Everything we didn't do is a stupid idea until we think of it first"

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    Sven Groot

    But if I'm not going anywhere, why do I need a mobile phone? Tongue Out

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , Sven Groot wrote

    @PaoloM: Or more, recently, how iOS6 maps was fecking useless on the day of release? And for some parts of the world (e.g. mine), still is?

    Sure, the maps app wasn't beta quality when they released it... that's because it was barely even alpha quality.

    Yeah and Apple got zero flak for the crappiness of the Maps app.  Perplexed

    I love how people are justifying one vendor's bad or beta software because other vendors do it. Race to the bottom everyone!

    If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
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    PaoloM

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    Yeah and Apple got zero flak for the crappiness of the Maps app.  Perplexed

    I love how people are justifying one vendor's bad or beta software because other vendors do it. Race to the bottom everyone!

    Oh shut up and learn to read. My post, and the replies, were regarding the notion that Apple always releases perfect products.

    If you really need to always find something to argue, go ahead but don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

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    Sven Groot

    @DeathByVisualStudio: That's not what I was saying, at all.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , PaoloM wrote

    *snip*

    Oh shut up and learn to read. My post, and the replies, were regarding the notion that Apple always releases perfect products.

    If you really need to always find something to argue, go ahead but don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

    We all know that the Apple reality distortion field is dead. You're just providing an excuse for Microsoft to put out beta's as production software. Everyone puts out crappy, unfinished software.  Yeah.

    BTW, nice decorum Mr. Positive.

     

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    Bas

    Or you could actually read the thread.

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    PaoloM

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    BTW, nice decorum Mr. Positive.

    Er, no. You don't get to use that defense.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , PaoloM wrote

    *snip*

    Er, no. You don't get to use that defense.

    What? Because I'm not arrogant and cocky enough?

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    PaoloM

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    What? Because I'm not arrogant and cocky enough?

    Au contraire Smiley

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    Craig_​Matthews

    , PaoloM wrote

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    Wow, talk about revisionist history... forgot how the first TWO releases of OSX couldn't even play a DVD? How the iPhone's app story for a full year was "write a web page"?

    Sure, and remember how Windows XP was hacked to hell in back over a decade ago around the same time? 

    We can play that game of comparing unsupported, not presently sold, and decades old software all day. As I said in my post, there is a belief that consumers nowadays will accept the same crap that computer geeks accepted over 10 years ago (which is when the products you just mentioned and Windows XP came out). My point is that when you take into account all of the bugs/issues with the current iterations of both OSX, Windows, (and Linux), iPad, Surface, (and Android), and iPhone, Windows Phone, (and Android), the bottom line is that Apple products generally don't need to have additional work done to them by the person who bought it to make them work as advertised or have glaring system level issues that prevent functionality or break during normal use (Windows Update prompting to restart the computer when TrustedInstaller is still in the background still only about half of the way through a patch in the middle of copying files, for example -- yes Windows update still breaks spontaneously, nearly in every case requiring a reinstall because PSS doesn't know what the error codes mean). 

    A shitty app in an update? Big deal, that happens to OSX, iOS, Windows, Android, and everything else. Fundamental parts of Windows come out of the box broken, planned to be fixed in a service pack, get fixed in a service pack, and then break again in the exact same ways two entire releases later even though those parts haven't even changed.

    Also -- the supported platform of a phone OS at the time of release being web apps is not a bug. And to my point -- that phone worked as advertised, right out of the box.

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    Kental2

    @Craig_Matthews: I have to disagree; I don't think you speak for a majority and I think it is entirely subjective.  I get far, far more complaints from friends and family using macs than I get from friends and family using Windows.  "Why doesn't it do this" or "That's stupid, I wanted this other thing" or "Why is this so difficult when all I want to do is..."

    Obviously, I'm one person and therefore as a statistical result set my experience is pretty much inconsequential, but that just says to me that it's subjective.  To me the perception of Apple as being "more solid" is pure rubbish, and the delusions of a company who honestly believe their marketing (which is amazing by the way; I'm pretty sure Apple could sell machine guns to old ladies without much trouble).

    One man's opinion.

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