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i want illumiRoom!!!!

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  • magicalclick

    Just let me spend the money, MS hurry !!!!!!

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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  • FuncOfT

    Nice!  Here's a link to the video from MSR:  http://youtu.be/re1EatGRV0w

     

    More information:  http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/illumiroom/

     

     

     

     

  • Bass

    That's pretty amazing stuff, the sort of thing that deserves a Channel 9 video.

  • DeathBy​VisualStudio

    That's cool but it looks like Sony beat them by about a year (at least publicly). In any case I think we have some idea what the next generation consoles may bring. The future looks bright.

    If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
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  • magicalclick

    @DeathByVisualStudio:

    That's such an empty flat room.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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  • Bas

    That Sony video was produced as an ad for the Playstation Video Store, in a studio. It's not even remotely the same. It also requires acting from the participant (the guy isn't -really- seeing a floating cube. He can't see it at all), and a bunch of stagehands in full-body white suits moving props and furniture around in your living room. Anyone even suggesting it's the same thing is either insane or deliberately trying to be a negative nancy.

    Anyway, it looks awesome. I wonder what kind of projector they're envisioning for this in a consumer product, and where it would be positioned.

    I also want to see a C9 video about this.

  • evildictait​or

    , magicalclick wrote

    Just let me spend the money, MS hurry !!!!!!

    That is freakishly awesome.

    Also, a better resolution of the same video :http://research.microsoft.com/apps/video/default.aspx?id=179795

    There's also the short form from the CES video: http://research.microsoft.com/apps/video/default.aspx?id=179806

    Note: According to the MSR website, these videos don't have any post-processing added. The kinect is also used to get a layout of the room to automagically adjust the light for the fact that your room isn't flat.

    If they can get this somehow into the XBox 720, they'll utterly destroy the competition.

  • Bas

    This sounds like it would be doable with a hobbyist setup. You can scan the room with a single depth image from Kinect (or two or three if you have to tilt it), and you have a depth map with which to distort an image, which you then send to a bog-standard projector.

    I wonder what kind of algorithm one would use for the distortion. They do the same thing with projections on buildings, and I've always wondered.

    Edit: I am wondering how this looks in real life, though. Those Johnny Chung-Lee Wiimote videos looked amazing too, but when you see it in real life (and with two eyes, rather than through one camera lens) the effect is much less impressive. I'm thinking the same might apply to stuff like, say, the depth effect with the snowflakes.

  • wkempf

    The next Xbox leaks included information about immersive gameplay, so this is probably a first peak at what they were talking about. I think you really can expect this with the next console... maybe through a peripheral (even the Kinnect itself) available later, but this is exactly what the leaks seem to have indicated were the plans.

  • exoteric

    That thing looks awesome!

    To be honest though, despite this being like ambilight on steroids, crack and acid, I still prefer the real deal in terms of 3D glasses (not the ones you use in the cinema but the ones popularized in 80s virtual reality culture).

    There is a lot of research around what appears to be nice "hacks" (arrogantly put) but I don't see anything able to compete with a fully substituted and interactive field of view. Add stereo cameras and you have augmented reality. Reminds me of the twisted movie Strange Days.

  • Harlequin

    @Bas:That's what I was thinking. People already do this to some extent with multiple monitors.

     

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  • Dr Herbie

    @exoteric: Looks like IlluniRoom is a simple version of 'Foveated Rendering' where the point of interest is rendered fully, but peripheral areas are rendered partially or in lower resolution (I say a simple version because it's not tracking eye movements, expecting the user to concentrate on the TV screen).

    May tests of foveated rendering showed users didn't notice any difference from full rendering.  I expect the IllumiRoom is something you have to try to see the full benefit.

    Herbie

  • Ian2

    , Harlequin wrote

    @Bas:That's what I was thinking. People already do this to some extent with multiple monitors.

     

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    Jesus! What is a bedroom doing inside that 747?

  • Ian2

    So a cross between that thing Philips did recently where they scanned the peripheral colour of whatever was on your TV and projected it around the outer shell of the TV?

    This just looks like a 'way more awesome' version. 

    Wonder if it is any good for movies?  I'm thinking a tuned down version might enhance the movie watching experience, though most buffs nowadays have a dedicated projector for watching movies so perhaps it would be superfluous?

    Those guys in the labs do great work.

  • Sven Groot

    , Ian2 wrote

    Jesus! What is a bedroom doing inside a 747?

    Actually, those are Cessna instrument panels on the monitors. Not quite a 747. And I've got that same yoke (though only one). I'm wondering if Flight Simulator properly supports dual flight controls... I'm betting it probably does (and if it doesn't, there a 100% chance there's a mod for it that does). Too bad you can't physically link them so they move in sync like in a real plane.

    Real simulators are still slight more advanced though:

    Smiley

  • exoteric

    @Dr Herbie: I don't see "foveated rendering" as an alternative to a fully substituted field of view, but rather as an orthogonal and interesting prospect (if you can somehow stuff eye tracking into the "glasses" as well.)

  • wkempf

    @Ian2:

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    Jesus! What is a bedroom doing inside that 747?

    For the same amount of money he spent on the tech here he probably could have bought a 747!

  • FuncOfT

    Check this out:  http://phys.org/news/2013-01-chips.html 

    MIT made photonic, tunable antenna on chips that work together to interfere millimeters above the surface of the chips.  The interference can be tuned to create images.  This paves the way for true 3D holographic displays.

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