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    BitFlipper

    @evildictaitor: Well a focused beam doesn't lose power at the square of the distance (think of a laser beam).

    I can imagine some system sometime in the future that can lock on and track devices that need charging, sending focused beams of energy to them. I'm not sure what the energy beam would be though, it has to penetrate most objects and be harmless to humans and animals. Obviously if something gets in the way that the beam can't penetrate it would automatically shut off. 

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    giovanni

    , Bas wrote

    I love that connector. I personally can't stand fiddling with the micro-usb connector on my phone. I turn it over at least three or four times.

    My GPS is even worse. I'm suspecting TomTom of making it deliberately hard to plug in without actually grabbing the device, turning it upside down and looking at the socket, in order to prevent you from plugging your device in while driving.

    If it serves no other purpose than that (did they really drop the whole video/audio output over the connector thing? That seems... odd) then yeah, it's not much of an advantage over micro-usb, but still. I guess I just wish USB was orientation-agnostic.

    If you don't like fiddling with the micro USB port (who does?), the ultimate solution is not a symmetric port but wireless charging, assuming you can leave the charger permanently plugged in.

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    giovanni

    , Maddus Mattus wrote

    @giovanni: they will let you sell it with an adapter.

    Corrrect, but I don't find the idea of having an extra adaptor with me very efficient. I just hope there won't be different standards for wireless charging as I see it being potentially a very good solution for all of this.

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    Bas

    , giovanni wrote

    *snip*

    If you don't like fiddling with the micro USB port (who does?), the ultimate solution is not a symmetric port but wireless charging, assuming you can leave the charger permanently plugged in.

    I would like both. Wireless charging sounds ideal to me for the nightly "drop your phone on the night stand" scenario, or just when you're working so you can place it on your desk to charge. But then I also need a cable for when I'm on the go. So that still means fiddling, or a symmetric port. So the ultimate solution would be wireless charging -and- a symmetric port.

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    giovanni

    @Bas: Given how power hungry modern phones have become and that they basically took the place of desk phones, charging at work is almost mandatory. But if the thing is small enough, why bring a cable with you on the go? Sounds like THE solution to me.

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    Maddus Mattus

    @giovanni: If the choice is between a cable and a whoopee cushion,...

    I'd rather bring the cable Wink

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    BitFlipper

    If Apple really wanted to be "innovative" they should have come up with a hybrid port that can take both the old 30-pin connector and the new connector. Or a small adaptor that plugs in flush with the bottom of the phone that converts the 30-pin to the new format. This is Apple, they are supposed to be innovative.

    But of course that would not have brought them in $19 to $29 a pop to let you kludge your old accessories to work with it, so I guess I see why they did it this way.

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    Ray7

    , BitFlipper wrote

    If Apple really wanted to be "innovative" they should have come up with a hybrid port that can take both the old 30-pin connector and the new connector.

     One of the reasons they changed the port was so that they could make devices smaller, so a hybrid port is a non-starter.

    Or a small adaptor that plugs in flush with the bottom of the phone that converts the 30-pin to the new format. This is Apple, they are supposed to be innovative.

    A plug that fits flush with the bottom of the phone? Do you mean a flat connector?

    But of course that would not have brought them in $19 to $29 a pop to let you kludge your old accessories to work with it, so I guess I see why they did it this way.

    And your solution is....?

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    giovanni

    @Maddus Mattus: well, normally there is a (small) brick attached to the cord anyway, so if the cushion is small enough does it make much of a difference?

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    cbae

    , Maddus Mattus wrote

    @giovanni: If the choice is between a cable and a whoopee cushion,...

    I'd rather bring the cable Wink

    Then it's a good thing that some phones (i.e. ones not sold by Apple) don't force you to make the same choice for all use cases.

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    BitFlipper

    , Ray7 wrote

    *snip*

    And your solution is....?

    microUSB?

    At least if they want to obsolete existing accessories, go with something that customers can benefit from going forward.

    There is some really lame excuse about then new connector having 8 pins. So far no-one has been able to come up with anything you can do with this new connector that you can't do with a microUSB connector. If there is some extra "signal" you need to transmit, it's a matter of using a protocol that can understand it on both ends.

    But hey, it's all digital!! Uhm, and microUSB isn't?

    But hey, you can plug it in any way!! Really? That is weak.

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    magicalclick

    I think the interesting part for me, is. Why does USB has connection inside instead of exposed outside? Is there any special reason to it?

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    Ian2

    Apple sure underplayed these revolutionary features ...

     

    0:44 - Dang, I got to get me one of those!

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    Maddus Mattus

    @giovanni: That brick is my laptop or pc Wink

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    spivonious

    , Ian2 wrote

    Apple sure underplayed these revolutionary features ...

     

     

    0:44 - Dang, I got to get me one of those!

    LMAO

    I'm sure the reporter just went to Youtube and searched for iPhone 5.

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    ScanIAm

    , BitFlipper wrote

    @evildictaitor: Well a focused beam doesn't lose power at the square of the distance (think of a laser beam).

    I can imagine some system sometime in the future that can lock on and track devices that need charging, sending focused beams of energy to them. I'm not sure what the energy beam would be though, it has to penetrate most objects and be harmless to humans and animals. Obviously if something gets in the way that the beam can't penetrate it would automatically shut off. 

    Larry Niven wrote a novel that talked about satellite power that would align a directional microwave and low power laser along the same path.  Your roof would have a receiver that also had a small mirror laying flat at the base of the bowl.  The microwave power transmission would turn on if and only if the laser light bounced back to the source.  It avoids accidental 'cooking'.

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    Sven Groot

    You know, it's really great how they replaced Google Maps with their own maps app. Great improvement:

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    It's even more fun how it lists the name of the station in the autocomplete suggestions, yet still can't find it. And for the record, searching for the name in kanji doesn't work either.

    This is almost as bad as Bing.

    And trying to search for public transit directions doesn't work at all anymore. Instead of displaying a route, it seems to search for "routing apps" in the app store, and doesn't find anything. Mad

    I usually used Jorudan for train schedules anyway, but it's still stupid that they essentially crippled their map functionality. I guess my next phone will have to be an Android since those are now the only ones with decent maps.

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    Ian2

    @Sven Groot:Did you check out Nokia maps?  Pretty good around me anyway.

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