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    CaRDiaK

    Bailed. 

    Fed up of waiting for trickles of information and each time there is a little news, It's bad. No dates, no info, now only 80g usable, 17w processors etc.. What's next at release? 3 hour life? an additional $200? 

    #fail thanks, but no thanks..  Surface really does feel like MS's client swan song. And you do nothing but get the back up of the people you are expecting to create the apps for it... which I also believe are now dwindling. Cheerio, it's been a journey.. will the last one out please switch off the light Smiley wishing you all the very best with your hobbies and careers. 

    We can only see a short distance ahead, but we can see plenty there that needs to be done.
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    Harlequin

    I think you can expand that 80GB with a memory card.

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    fanbaby

    Mixed feeling here. On one hand I cheer what's happening to the biggest patent troll these days. On the other hand this sheer incompetence makes me feel bad for Microsoft and its developers.

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    cbae

    , fanbaby wrote

    Mixed feeling here. On one hand I cheer what's happening to the biggest patent troll these days. On the other hand this sheer incompetence makes me feel bad for Microsoft and its developers.

    That can't even compare the sadness that I feel for those dopes that purchased an Android tablet.

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    Ian2

    The Surface Pro looks nice as a takeaway device but I doubt anyone is going to use it as their primary development machine.  On the other hand Ultrabooks make great dev machines, especially if you are like me and often  like to code on your lap (the one downside I have found with the Surface is it isn't very usable on your lap for any length of time).

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    cbae

    @Ian2: I can't even use a laptop on my lap for more than a few seconds. I simply can't stand having to use any point device other than a mouse. I can surf all day on a phone or a tablet, but if I'm trying to do anything productive without a mouse, fuhgeddaboudit.

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    Ian2

    @cbae:I know what you mean but I have an armchair that has enough width to allow mouse use (which nowadays is usually an Arc Mouse)

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    wkempf

    Both of you should check this out: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-939-000181-Portable-Lapdesk-N315/dp/B002NTADVW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359395384&sr=8-2&keywords=logitech+desk.

    I tested with a Surface RT, and this works pretty good. Makes it possible to use the tablet like a laptop, IMHO. The pull out mouse tray also means I can use a mouse with my laptop or maybe eventually with a Surface.

    If I get a Surface, it will be a development device. I don't really care to develop for more than an hour or so with a laptop, so it will be used most of "docked" on my desktop, but with that tray, I can do the odd bit of development with the Surface in my lap.

    I'm still not sold that the Surface is the Win8 device I'll get, though.

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    cbae

    @wkempf: Meh.

    This.

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    Edit: The damn thing doesn't come with a mouse pad. Grrr...

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    cbae

    LOL

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    wkempf

    @cbae: Accept that's not portable.

    The lap desk I linked to is very small and light weight. It fits into the same bag as your laptop when travelling, and can be used anywhere you'd be able to use a laptop.

    It's not quite as portable as the Surface, though. I still think it will work nicely, but there is a bit of compromise here.

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    figuerres

    A Mac-POD ?? LOL  -- looks like an apple logo on the side of the tower

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    evildictait​or

    , Ian2 wrote

    The Surface Pro looks nice as a takeaway device but I doubt anyone is going to use it as their primary development machine. 

    Was that ever going to be the case with a screen that small? Development machines tend to go big, with multiple monitors and big CPUs for compilation. I find the whole concept that someone might want to develop code on a screen the size of your outstretched hand utterly baffling. You'll have massive neck and eye-strain if you try.

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    MikeInOhio

    For an offsite, quick emergency dev machine, it should be able to work just fine. I think the OP is confused as to what the Surface Pro is supposed to be... either that or is another one of those folks who think it is cool to tell everyone how they don't like something. I *typically* do not waste time with things I think I will not like.

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    wkempf

    , evildictait​or wrote

    *snip*

    Was that ever going to be the case with a screen that small? Development machines tend to go big, with multiple monitors and big CPUs for compilation. I find the whole concept that someone might want to develop code on a screen the size of your outstretched hand utterly baffling. You'll have massive neck and eye-strain if you try.

    The same can be said for laptops, yet that's done all the time in the real world. Typically, it means docking the device in order to get full sized keyboards, mice, large/multiple monitors, etc. That will work fine with the Surface Pro.

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    ScanIAm

    , wkempf wrote

    *snip*

    The same can be said for laptops, yet that's done all the time in the real world. Typically, it means docking the device in order to get full sized keyboards, mice, large/multiple monitors, etc. That will work fine with the Surface Pro.

    Am I the only one who notices that once computing is truly portable, we get a raft of folks who are now complaining that it's too portable?

    It seems like all the technology companies should have just concentrated inventing a desk that will follow you around...

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , evildictait​or wrote

    *snip*

    Was that ever going to be the case with a screen that small? Development machines tend to go big, with multiple monitors and big CPUs for compilation. I find the whole concept that someone might want to develop code on a screen the size of your outstretched hand utterly baffling. You'll have massive neck and eye-strain if you try.

    How could you possibly make such a statement without having spent a day coding on one of these? I mean the nerve of some people having an opinion based purely on the hypothetical. Might I suggest you really work on your impartiality.  Perplexed

    If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
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    evildictait​or

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    How could you possibly make such a statement without having spent a day coding on one of these? I mean the nerve of some people having an opinion based purely on the hypothetical. Might I suggest you really work on your impartiality.  Perplexed

    I have a jailbroken Surface RT which I use to run Powershell and Burp Professional. I also have a jailbroken iPad with SSH. It's a PITA to use compared with Visual Studio on a desktop. I'll admit I don't run VS on the Surface RT or have a Surface Pro, but it's the size of the screen that hurts when developing long before disk space or anything else gets into the equation.

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