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ok so when will we hear more about the next windows ?

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    figuerres

    time to look to V Next .... what will it bring for us to like or hate as the case may be ?

     

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    Sven Groot

    Sinofsky may be gone but I suspect it will take some time to clear his influence. And as long as that influence remains, MS will be keeping things under wrap for Windows v.Next as long as possible, unfortunately.

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    contextfree`

    Like others, I'd really like to have public info ASAP so people will at least have something new to argue about. Smiley

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    magicalclick

    I hope they would extend Metro to be used on desktop. So, my Metro Skype can be the real replacement to the desktop version. But, I don't believe MS would publicly announce that until beta.

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    elmer

    I've heard that it eats kittens.

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    Harlequin

    , elmer wrote

    I've heard that it eats kittens.

    That was just a bug introduced in the first Windows 9 branch...it's been fixed...

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    cheong

    @magicalclick:Yeah. People will like it when their Metro App can dock on gadget container, and it'll make this feature available from Vista actually useful.

    Also Metro Apps can run on virtual desktop (like the secure desktop where we receive consent prompt for UAC). Afterall we at most run one Metro App at a time. I think it'll be doable. And with some level of translucent background, it'll merge nicely with the look and feel of desktop.

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    wkempf

    , figuerres wrote

    time to look to V Next .... what will it bring for us to like or hate as the case may be ?

     

    What do you mean by V Next? That moniker is a bit fuzzy now. "Windows Blue" is rumored to be arriving this summer. Is that V Next? It's more than a service pack, but probably less than what we're accustomed to for full releases. There are some rumors about what will be in Blue, but they are just rumors.

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    Harlequin

    Windows Blue just sounds like a SP1...

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , Sven Groot wrote

    Sinofsky may be gone but I suspect it will take some time to clear his influence. And as long as that influence remains, MS will be keeping things under wrap for Windows v.Next as long as possible, unfortunately.

    Unfortunately I believe you are correct. Culture takes a long time to change. I for one am not anticipating any major shift in Windows Blue. Maybe an improved store experience, a few nits polished off, but not any major shift like share contact support for desktop apps. 

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    wkempf

    @Harlequin: Nope. It includes new features, and some rumors claim some updated UI changes as well. It's not a service pack, though it's not what most of us would consider a full release either. It will be interesting to see how Microsoft positions blue. Do you have to pay for it? Will it be pushed via Windows Update? Do they market it?

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    kettch

    @wkempf: There's also some rumored changes to WinRT that brings it and the phone api's closer together.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , kettch wrote

    @wkempf: There's also some rumored changes to WinRT that brings it and the phone api's closer together.

    Now that would be great news. With WP8 devices running ARM and WinRT supporting ARM aside from the screen size and "phone" related features why wouldn't WP8 have the same (albeit limited) API? I'm just asking as I'm not a WP8 developer but am always looking why we should support WP8 in addition to Android.

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    cbae

    I'd like to see the next version allow Metro apps to run in a chromeless window like Zune does. We can have multiple instances of iexplorer.exe running in the same window frame. I don't see why this couldn't be the case for a bunch of different Metro apps.

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    wkempf

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    Now that would be great news. With WP8 devices running ARM and WinRT supporting ARM aside from the screen size and "phone" related features why wouldn't WP8 have the same (albeit limited) API? I'm just asking as I'm not a WP8 developer but am always looking why we should support WP8 in addition to Android.

    I think the big reason is due to the screen sizes, to be honest. However, that's entirely about the UI portions of the APIs. Everything else should be the same. This includes the APIs for talking to the various sensors, the WinRT contracts, etc. I was a bit disappointed when we found out the WP8 APIs were little more than a revision of the WP7 APIs.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    @wkempf: A C9 interview on explaining the background direction chosen for the WP8 API and what they foresee in the future would certainly be interesting.

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    vesuvius

    I just want commitment to platforms, and hope they don't decide to change everything again.

    I do know that they will have to placate big business, who they completely ignored in this release, it will be suicide to expect most businesses to start developing metro style apps, that would happen after 10 years and their staff had retrained.

    Sinofsky went because he did not treat the developer division with the care he ought to have, obliterating years worth of investment. At one stage I wondered why bbc.co.uk did not opt for Silverlight, but now I know they made the right call in Adobe. I just hope Julie Larson-Green takes however long it takes to formulate an environment where Windows can generate the adoration that Windows 7, XP and 95 have

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