@jamie: It's obvious from your screenshot that you have the wrong font. It's supposed to be Segoe UI, but it's not. I ask again, what OS are you viewing this on?
Herbie is right that C9's fonts aren't optimal, but it's not supposed to be anywhere near as bad as you are seeing.
@Sven Groot: I hesitate to say this, but age may be a factor here (definitely for me, I can't speak for Jamie). I am generally finding small fonts harder to read.
Get off my lawn.
Font size appears to be set at 100% so it probably should be the same as the UI size.
Personally, I despise Segoe UI and fontsubstitute it to Tahoma, as I find that more readable.
If you are using Fireox, you can set the minimum font size that overrides the page styling.
Makes a bit of a mess at times, but can be useful.
C9 text is bigger than the text in Windows Explorer for me too. It's perfectly readable at 1680x1050 on my 22" monitor.
Are you SURE you're running your browser at 100%. That's what it should say in the bottom right corner of IE next to the little magnifying glass. ALSO go to View/Text Size. The default is Medium to see the fonts at the size websites where designed for.
@dentaku: His problem is that the font he's seeing on C9 is not Segoe UI. Look at his screenshots. It's very clearly a different font.
EDIT: Actually, checking the CSS, C9 actually uses Arial, not Segoe UI (I thought it used Segoe UI; may have been a previous iteration I guess). In any case, the font Jamie is seeing is not Arial either, the font in his screenshot is not the same as in my screenshot, and clearly smaller.
Oh, the horror (Tim Berners-Lee)
It's like calling Fox and complaining that their volume is too loud.
HTML was designed (in a long ago, forgotten time) to be logical (semantical) markup. It was assumed the user was savvy enough to change color/size/font. Then came the designers with their photoshop files..... thus FONT tag was born, and nothing was the same again.
Q: How do you separate the good sites from the ones that were designed by babies?
A: You change the minimum font size, and watch their grand design fall to pieces.
So your answer: go to settings and change the minimum font size, your life will not be the same (especially since your bank site will not work again )
EDIT: the plus side: more and more sites are getting robust enough to not go crazy after this simple change.
Post a screenshot of C9, MSN, and Desktop side-by-side.
As for IE setting, you have TWO places to set.
As for system wide font size, including Desktop, Visual Studios, and Windows Explore, change DPI in control panel. I used to set 125% on my 24in 1080p monitor. Once I get to 27in 1080p, I get my DPI down to 110%.
And if you are using MetroIE in CP build, MetroIE is not as smart, it doesn't default your zoom to match your DPI. You need to zoom manually.
However they aren't fixed size either. No fonts appear to have absolute sizes, so they're using your default browser size, whatever that is.
So the lesson here is - if you have a large monitor and a small default font size C9 is obeying your font size - so increase it in your browser and stop blaming C9 for your choices.
Ok, I have increased by browser font and I can read it all more easily -- unfortunately, the menu at the page header is now broken (with the C9 logo overlapping the first button). So I can blame C9 for my choices
- all other sites work fine - readable
- i have arial and segoeUI installed (of course)
- i do NOT wish to monkey with fonts sizes / zooming for ONE site (believe it or not i know how to use those features)
- i just opened FF and the font is fine there - but IE - the browser i STILL USE - they are mouse size
happy canada day!!!!
* and yes im old with glasses ... 2 years from 50 - man shoot me! lol
ps - win7 64 (of course) - win8 64 is on the HP touchsmart
I noticed that when I'm signed in (and using custom CSS), the width of the "mainContent" div element resizes with the browser window. When I'm not signed in (i.e. not using custom CSS), the div element does NOT resize.
IOW, the custom CSS can make a lot of weird things happen in how this forum renders.
You need only be signed in as a user in one browser to post. Are you signed in on both browsers using the same account?
The only difference I see is when I'm signed in vs. not signed in. It doesn't matter what browser I'm using. When signed in, the forum looks the same to me in both Chrome and IE. When not signed in, the forum looks the same to me in both Chrome and IE.
That's why you should use em instead of point and pixel fonts
@jamie: There's definitely something not right with your browser settings there, because that's definitely smaller text than I'm seeing in IE9. I'd be inclined to check that the text size (not zoom) is at it's default setting (i.e. Medium) and hasn't been tweaked by something you've installed (or by some OEM customization).
The only other thing I can imagine is possibly that your screen dpi settings are set to something unusual, because I believe IE tries to accomodate for that, which can cause text to look mis-sized on occasion.
text size was changed - but i NEVER change that..... anyway
carry on...nothing to see here.... (thanks!)
i can see again!
Edit: i never even thought to check it - as id never do that - use it.
Maybe something i loaded did change it - or i hit some shortcut by accident...
ps - its still 15 minutes left of canada day.... happy canada day!
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