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    jamie

    you go hardware.

     

    you are free from pricing ideas on win and office

    everything is based off device

    ... wow that must be hard... i dont know though .. would i buy the device that supports windows and office and photoshop and corel? of course.

     

    Make your own computers. make your own laptops. make your own phones.

     

    NO ONE WANTS TO PAY for software - mr gates - you were wrong in your college article.

     

    hardware wins. you cant pirate hardware.  enough with the software.

     

    put all your partners out of business - then take out google and apple

     

    if you dont have the guts or ideas to do it...

    i do!

     

    Tongue Out

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    jamie

    small OEMs could still sell linux or chrome OS or a winOS like now. but it would be a free version.

    (yip)   It would be free - and it would even come with some rudimentary online - stuff- whatever that worked...  it wouldn't be crippled.  But mostly - these small OEMs would disappear - as the idea here is to build an Xbox - pc. so perfect and cheap - you don't want any config changes.  3 or 4 flavors - from low to high in price.  A set top PC / xbox. Really - it is to make Xbox the apple killer.

    Make Xbox the new PC - to put all current OEMs out of business - then take on Google and Apple with it.  just one name too... xbox.. phone.. xbox pc  xbox server  xbox home xbox office

    goodbye windows!   it is xbox - that is microsoft's most valuable / trendy brand.

     

    haha ok lets hear you all disagree!  lol

     

     

     

     

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    jamie

    ...can you imagine an ad for a new pc - from Microsoft - called the xbox.

    (sort of like an old band name - The xbox) ... but this time - it is the REAL THING

    everything.  (all pc - all game - all set top -  all in one)

    3 or 4 flavours. ... no licences... no BSA ....  You know how you take out apple? you cut down the tree.

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    Charles

    "NO ONE WANTS TO PAY for software - mr gates - you were wrong in your college article."

    You could argue that his original idea was (and is) quite profitable. The difference is in how software and the devices that run it have evolved - from creating to nurturing to adapting to the human behavior that makes the endeavor profitable. Puzzles don't always hide the same picture.

    C

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    jamie

    but the value of your software - is what will sell the devices.  no need to sue people for using it anymore?

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    Charles

    @jamie: Grasshopper, you seem to already possess the answer. But, what's the question?
    C

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    jamie

    ..ps - if i just got into a debate with charles - i back out NOW 

     

    haha

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    jamie

    the question is why is ms not doing as good as its expected to do.

     

    my answer is to change everything.

     

    Smiley

     

    edit:  zip wasnt in the os before... bla bla.  so whats the difference between dell and zip or nokia and zip.  call them all MS Xbox - zippidy do da day

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    jamie

    ...which all would crest ... on the release ... of ...4... immaculate PCs

    $200 $ 400 $800 $1000  Microsoft XBOX 

    and as long as im dreaming... all the above xbox pcs would be built into monitors and those prices would be for size.  lol

     

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    jamie

    = there is no building pcs anymore.  oems are dead. 

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    jamie

    ok ok... for the big wall tv sizes (same thing - touch etc) 1500, 2000, 3000 dollars

    projection x four walls add 1000

    Tongue Out

    edit: xbox is a screen: phone, game, tv, pc, tablet, magazine...............

    xbox = no more configuring - an Xbox comes with stuff you didnt even know existed! (like apple does... you can DO that now!) ... in this scenario....

     

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    PaoloM

     So, we are now at 7 devices by your count. What about a smartwatch? A phablet? A smartdesk? Wearable computing?

    How many?

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    JoshRoss

    You can have crappy hardware with good software, but the reverse is not true. I'll pay for good software, and I'll pay plenty for great software.

    -Josh

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    Richard.Hein

    , jamie wrote

    you go hardware.

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    hardware wins. you cant pirate hardware.  enough with the software.

    Right and wrong.  Hardware FTW, but you can and will be able to pirate hardware as easily as software in the near future.  As for software ... what is software, really?  Software is instructions to hardware, so it certainly will not ever go away if we think of it just as instructions, but how that interacts with hardware will certainly change.

    The two shall become one:

    Back to software again - with quantum entanglement, encryption, and teleportation, it would be possible to make a secure link between hardware devices that transmits the software from one to another.  Then software would not ever be able to be pirated again; at least based on what we know now.

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    Richard.Hein

    , PaoloM wrote

     So, we are now at 7 devices by your count. What about a smartwatch? A phablet? A smartdesk? Wearable computing?

    How many?

    Countless specialized devices will emerge over the next decade - the era of hardware has just begun.  People will begin to create new kinds of devices that we can only imagine.  3D printing will become better and better, and eventually we'll be programming in rod logic at the nanoscale.  These are essentially analog computers, that will be integrated with classical electronics, spintronics, organic computing and quantum computing.

    Think of Brian Beckman's video where he introduced the U.S. Navy Fire Control system - it's an analog computer that can precisely calculate things that digital computers could not possibly calculate due to floating point precision problems, until after WWII.  Then the era of analog computers died, but with 3D printing I believe that they will make a come back.  First in toys and all kinds of novelty items, then for real practical applications.

    EDIT:  Added some links.

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    Proton2

    Is this thread about 3D printers? I've lost the plot.

    "In the next few years, I suspect we're going to see disillusionment with the idea of owning a 3D printer. The machinery will be cheaper and more capable, perhaps integrating a larger array of materials, but most people still won't have a real use for them. If you don't want one now, you probably won't want one in a few years."

    http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/134833-why-the-3d-printing-revolution-wont-happen-in-your-garage

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    Auxon0

    @Proton2: They said the same kind of things about computers. 

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    Proton2

    , FuncOfT wrote

    @Proton2: They said the same kind of things about computers. 

     

    Those that got into computers early made billions. I don't think that's going to happen with 3D printers.

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