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real republicans are northerners

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    JohnAskew

    http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2012/11/14/state-republican-party-rejects-national-party-stance-abortion/WyJVmN1EfdHbYpOgcFaemK/story.html

    PLYMOUTH — In a partial defeat for the socially conservative wing of the Massachusetts GOP, the Republican State Committee effectively rejected the national party platform's strict language on abortion Tuesday night.

    A Republican move to the political middle is inevitable after losing elections this fall. Now, how the northern social liberals are going to corral the ignomious southern social conservative (bible belt folk), is the real fight that is brewing.

    In the 1960's, southern politics were either socially liberal Republicans or the socially conservative Democrats. Those southern conservatives became Republicans by Reagan's era. Today's southern liberals are Democrats.

    I believe the social liberal northern Republicans have had enough of their disgusting social conservative southern counterparts.

    I'd like to see them run the southern racists out of the GOP wholesale so that they can form their own southern white t-party - perhaps those racist Republican university students at Ol' Miss can champion a new redneck t-party and give the educated and decent northerner back his GOP.

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    spivonious

    @JohnAskew: I'd love to see it happen, but the GOP doesn't want to lose the vote of the "religious right". I think we'll start seeing more "northern" Republicans move away to the Democrats and Libertarians.

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    cbae

    @JohnAskew: The GOP would be far more successful if it were to dump its religious right "base". But we wouldn't want that to happen now, would we? Wink

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    JohnAskew

    , cbae wrote

    @JohnAskew: The GOP would be far more successful if it were to dump its religious right "base". But we wouldn't want that to happen now, would we? Wink

    Actually I would.

    Transparency++, the northerners don't seem to know what they have been supporting all this time...

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    Srikanth_t

    Those of us in the Ron Paul movement have warned that Romney has no chance of getting elected if they snub us so blatantly during the primary process. The clear fraud committed by the Repub establishment at the convention was the nail in the coffin as far as our support is concerned. Millions of us contributed to Ron Paul's campaign.

    The main problem with Repub voters seem to be their insistence on wasting so much money on American military empire. The money wasted leaves no room for them to reduce the spending....and they are left to ridiculous tactics like cutting funding for the big bird and other such inane things. How much does the big bird cost ? those funds are not even enough to cover a day's worth of Fed Government spending. 

    Of course, this does not mean Dems are any better when it comes to the Fed government budget. It is a foregone conclusion that Dems/Liberals are economically challenged.

    Repubs had a true chance in electing a genius when it comes to Economics.

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    Srikanth_t

    By the way, Ron Paul was the only Republican candidate who would go to many college campuses across the country and pull in thousands of kids in to his rallys.

     He bought the youth in to Republican party and the mental comprehension challenged Repub voters (both north and south)  did not want any of that. In defense of the North though, I would like to point out one Brownie point, Ron Paul did come in second in New Hampshire primary.

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    PaoloM

    How *adorable* that they do this *after* being clobbered in the election...

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    spivonious

    @Srikanth_t: I like Ron Paul, but his ideas were a bit too far out there to have any chance of being elected President. Maybe his son will have a better chance in 2016, but I think many "Paulites" were turned off by Rand Paul's endorsement of Romney.

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    TexasToast

    I like Ron Paul too.   Switch bodies with Mitt Romney and Ron Paul would win.   Lots of people judge on appearances and not content.  I think a third party is needed.  By the way,  what state does Ron Paul come from ?  Yes the best state in the country.

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    cbae

    , spivonious wrote

    @Srikanth_t: I like Ron Paul, but his ideas were a bit too far out there to have any chance of being elected President. Maybe his son will have a better chance in 2016, but I think many "Paulites" were turned off by Rand Paul's endorsement of Romney.

    Rand is as batshit crazy as ole Ron is.

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    cbae

    , TexasToast wrote

    I like Ron Paul too.   Switch bodies with Mitt Romney and Ron Paul would win.   Lots of people judge on appearances and not content.  I think a third party is needed.  By the way,  what state does Ron Paul come from ?  Yes the best state in the country.

    Outward appearance can't mask batshit crazy.

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    JohnAskew

    , TexasToast wrote

    I like Ron Paul too.   Switch bodies with Mitt Romney and Ron Paul would win.   Lots of people judge on appearances and not content.  I think a third party is needed.  By the way,  what state does Ron Paul come from ?  Yes the best state in the country.

    I never got to know Ron Paul. He failed to send his message my way. I'm not an ostrich, but I don't look under every rock at fringe candidates, and he is/was a fringe candidate.

    I can see what Romney's plan is by looking at his lifestyle... he's at least predictable.

    Ron Paul? What mini-van did he emerge from? What are his hobbies? He looks a bit like a mad scientist and that's not predictable, nothing is predictable with this guy... who is he, really? Perot?

    Texas is what it is.

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    Srikanth_t

    As usual, the Economics challenged people making un-informed comments.

    Ron Paul, September 6, 2001.. On the floor of the Congress.

       He pleaded with the Congress and the president Bush not to embark on yet another Government engineered economic bubble called Housing bubble. He predicted the exact trajectory of commodity prices, interest rates, FX rates, GSE securities, you name it.... all of that 7 years in advance. His  many speeches on economics (over many years)are part of the official congressional records and can be accessed at www.house.gov.

     On the other hand, we have the Economically challenged keynesian called Paul Krugman, who, in 2001 advocated for a housing bubble in response to the Dot Com Crash. Yet another clueless Keynesian, Fed Chariman Ben Bernanke, as late as 2007 was on primetime CNBC saying "sub-prime crisis is contained" and there is no financial crisis. That's right. He was on Primetime CNBC making this Economically challenged claim.
     

     Now, I understand that Economics is not everybody's subject of interest. But then, everybody seems to chime in on subject they know nothing about ( by electing economically challenged Obama).

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    Srikanth_t

    The economically challenged anti-Ron paul  NeoCon republicans seem to like wasting Trillions of dollars on ill-conceived wars. Not to mention, they themselves will never go fight in those wars. Or send their own kids. They just like to sit in the comfort of Air conditioned rooms and cheer the children of poor people as they waste their lives in ill conceived wars. The shorter words to describe these people are "Neo-Con Chicken hawks".

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    cbae

    @Srikanth_t: Why don't you tell us what we should know about economics, Professor? Enlighten us. I could use a good laugh.

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    Srikanth_t

     

    @cbae:

    Yes, I would be glad to explain. Let's take today's topic for example. Today Obama proposed raising $1.6 trillion revenue over the next decade by means of Tax increases on "those rich" people.

     Lot of Dem voters seem to have hard time deciphering Obama's today's lie. You see, Obama is running $1 trillion deficit PER YEAR. His proposed tax increases on "those rich" people amounts to nothing on a PER YEAR basis. As usual, he offers KoolAid, and Dem voters just drink it. If Obama were not a liar, he would tell the truth. If he intends to fill the deficit by Taxes only...then taxing "those rich" amounts to nothing. He really needs to tax "us middle class" people. Then, only then, can his $1trillion/year deficit can be covered. Comprende' ?

    Now, I understand that lot of Liberals believe that if only the taxes on "those rich" can be increased  and spending not reduced, we can all hold hands and enjoy the milk and honey. But sometimes, Liberals need to drink coffee and smell their "batshit" ( to use your language).

    Given that I work with commodity prices, interest rates, FX rates data and use advanced statistical models to perform option valuation and risk metrics on millions of dollars of my customers commodity portfolios for my "daily" living ( and actually make a pretty good living at that), I would be glad to explain any other economic topic of interest to you. Do let me know what topic you need a little bit teaching on.

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    brian.​shapiro

    , JohnAskew wrote

    http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2012/11/14/state-republican-party-rejects-national-party-stance-abortion/WyJVmN1EfdHbYpOgcFaemK/story.html

    PLYMOUTH — In a partial defeat for the socially conservative wing of the Massachusetts GOP, the Republican State Committee effectively rejected the national party platform's strict language on abortion Tuesday night.

    A Republican move to the political middle is inevitable after losing elections this fall. Now, how the northern social liberals are going to corral the ignomious southern social conservative (bible belt folk), is the real fight that is brewing.

    Democrats have yet to move to the middle on social issues, either, so its a bit of a double standard expecting Republicans to. Extreme is extreme, doesn't matter if its extreme liberal or extreme conservative.

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    Proton2

    The democrats got cloberd in the election, with House Speaker John Boehner now leader. He will not raise taxes including any form of a carbon tax.

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