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    agent__smith

    hello and let me start by saying that finally I had managed to reach u, my name is agent__smith  and I think I can improve your product called windows in term of integrity into our daily life. Or your missing Product – the home domain

    I will add a few photos to explain,

     

    1st  thing need to be done is I one 2 every thing in a computer that functions as more then a smart type writer should be accomplished with few steps 4 max! Example is photo1.

     

    In here I enqueues  in wmp on my media computer be cause the television is off and pc is playing on home theatre, only thing needed to be done to do so is opening remote desktop and browse with mouse whereas with windows you'll need for sure more steps.

     

    2nd thing is data and its arrangement.  Look @ picture num 2 everything should be available everywhere. From the picture u can see that my data and hardware and even some software is available from both computers on same place (can be achieved also Wireless due to today's technology, and soon I hope net widely

    Data is accessible here from each of the 4 computers you see and its location is centralize and decentralized accordingly (favorites on mainframe which is always on movies are on media).

     

    3rd is the liquefying of the Operating system – since we have more then one type of

    Screens that we are using in our home life then windows needs to be more liquid in terms of x-server and I'll give you an example for this:

    The 2 computers works in different environment, 1 is net/type writer machine other is a media pc, each is tuned accordingly and still looks almost the same, one is 1280*1024 other is 800*600, icons and fonts are also tuned accordingly .

     
    I will show you more pictures later …………

    edit: due to thumbnail small size i had attached both pics in zip file
    orginal resolution of pictures are 1280*1024

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    agent__smith

    baaaaaaaaa picture is so small !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    agent__smith

    well to trigger u ppl i'll start by this :

    if a poll option was available, then i would have added the next poll.

    who has computer @ bed room?

    i'd say 75% doesn't have, and that's why ?

    cause u hear them ! well only thing that noises @ most of our life is the fridge but nothing more check for yourselves.

    silent computers aren't that available yet though it's start to begin, to silent a computer nowdays takes too much money and i don't speak on all of these slow comps or low voltage cpus whom u can manage to silent them easily but on a htpc with hdtv Big Smile

    that's the major wall between today and a more computer integrated lifestyle in hardware terms(go see ghost in the shell SAC)

    what's that have to do with the above ?

    today a regular family needs more then one computer ,most have more then one, still no company had manage to answer the needs of a PC (the big hardware company ones had sold the pc section or donno how to eat the pc) in software level well we have ms (she's quite stuck Tongue Out ) but ms is like intel so see the layers above.what is the purpose of all of the search my pc "new" tool ? to find data . and that's cause data is a mess one almost everyones pc.

    lets summerize all

    a family of 5 ppl will need :

    4 silent htpc (mam & dad, 2 for children and main htpc)

    4 pc - internet/office

    till now that's 8 computers not include mobile net ones and family data must be arranged and not be like todays pc.

    lets not forget

    1 firewall

    1 server which will as u can see from the above will control data.

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    W3bbo


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    agent__smith

    lol though a bunny will appear Big Smile

    read it one more time then, and imagine yourself with such a system.

    i have this right now Big Smile

    a family domain Wink

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    W3bbo

    For the benefit of those fluent in English, I've made a semi-translation. There a few bits that make no sense to me, but hey: (Bold bits are me)

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    hello and let me start by saying that finally I had managed to reach u, my name is agent__smith  and I think I can improve your product called windows in term of integrity into our daily life. Or your missing Product – the home domain

    I will add a few photos to explain,

     

    Hi, I’m “agent__smith” and I have a few suggestions for Windows that will enable it to be more integral to our lives. I have added some exemplar screenshots.

     

    1st  thing need to be done is I one 2 every thing in a computer that functions as more then a smart type writer should be accomplished with few steps 4 max! Example is photo1.

     

    Our PCs need to be more like “Smart typewriters”, in that most tasks can be accomplished in under 4 steps.

     

    In here I enqueues  in wmp on my media computer be cause the television is off and pc is playing on home theatre, only thing needed to be done to do so is opening remote desktop and browse with mouse whereas with windows you'll need for sure more steps.

     

    In this screenshot, we have WMP on my Media PC over RDP. Rather than be displayed on my TV (which is off). If it were displayed in my Home Theatre I would only need to use my mouse to manipulate the playlist. But right now I need to open an RDP session with the PC which is a more complex task.

     

    2nd thing is data and its arrangement.  Look @ picture num 2 everything should be available everywhere. From the picture u can see that my data and hardware and even some software is available from both computers on same place (can be achieved also Wireless due to today's technology, and soon I hope net widely

    Data is accessible here from each of the 4 computers you see and its location is centralize and decentralized accordingly (favorites on mainframe which is always on movies are on media).

     

    Another problem is access to my files and hardware. If you take a look at the second picture you can see that all my files and hardware is available from both computers at the same time. This is accomplished thanks to Wi-Fi. Files and data are accessible to all 4 computers due to it being shared from a central server.

     

    3rd is the liquefying of the Operating system – since we have more then one type of

    Screens that we are using in our home life then windows needs to be more liquid in terms of x-server and I'll give you an example for this:

    The 2 computers works in different environment, 1 is net/type writer machine other is a media pc, each is tuned accordingly and still looks almost the same, one is 1280*1024 other is 800*600, icons and fonts are also tuned accordingly .

     

     <<No idea>>


    I will show you more pictures later …………

    edit: due to thumbnail small size i had attached both pics in zip file
    orginal resolution of pictures are 1280*1024

     

    well to trigger u ppl i'll start by this :

    if a poll option was available, then i would have added the next poll.

    who has computer @ bed room?

    i'd say 75% doesn't have, and that's why ?

    If it were possible for us to add our own polls, I’d have created a new poll entitled “Who has a computer in their bedroom?”.

    cause u hear them ! well only thing that noises @ most of our life is the fridge but nothing more check for yourselves.

     

    I expect around 75% of all votes will be “no”. I think that computers in the bedroom are unpopular because of the noise they produce. I guess that the only thing that adds noise to our lives is the fridge in the kitchen. Hear for yourselves.

    silent computers aren't that available yet though it's start to begin, to silent a computer nowdays takes too much money and i don't speak on all of these slow comps or low voltage cpus whom u can manage to silent them easily but on a htpc with hdtv Big Smile

     

    Silent PCs aren’t really available yet, although they have begun to propagate throughout the market. Silent PCs cost too much and would be hard to manage with HTPC and HTDV.

    that's the major wall between today and a more computer integrated lifestyle in hardware terms(go see ghost in the shell SAC)

     


    what's that have to do with the above ?

     


    today a regular family needs more then one computer ,most have more then one, still no company had manage to answer the needs of a PC (the big hardware company ones had sold the pc section or donno how to eat the pc) in software level well we have ms (she's quite stuck Tongue Out ) but ms is like intel so see the layers above.what is the purpose of all of the search my pc "new" tool ? to find data . and that's cause data is a mess one almost everyones pc.

    Today’s families need more than one computer, in fact, most have more than one. However, no company has yet to provide a solution. For software we have Microsoft, but Microsoft is like Intel.

     

    What is the purpose of the “Search my PC” tool? To find data! Which is a good thing when you consider that HDDs are usually in a mess on shared PCs.


    lets summerize all

    So lets summarize:


    a family of 5 ppl will need :

    4 silent htpc (mam & dad, 2 for children and main htpc)

    4 pc - internet/office

    till now that's 8 computers not include mobile net ones and family data must be arranged and not be like todays pc.

    lets not forget

    1 firewall

    1 server which will as u can see from the above will control data.

     

    A family of 5 people will need 4 silent PCs (1 for each family member (parents share a single PC) and a main HTPC), then another 4 PCs for the Office. So that’s 8 PCs (not including mobile devices). They would also need a firewall and a central server to control data.

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    agent__smith

    thank you man Smiley english isn't my native language .

    i had thought that you are a programmer, well in that case - don't think like a machine ,
    think as a plain user and what pcs can really give him .

    btw u got pc @ bedroom ?

    and i got some bits of my own if u care to see:

    "

    In this screenshot, we have WMP on my Media PC over RDP. Rather than be displayed on my TV (which is off). If it were displayed in my Home Theatre I would only need to use my mouse to manipulate the playlist. But right now I need to open an RDP session with the PC which is a more complex task.

    "
    you got it all wrong - u want to change playlist on the media pc (tv is off ht is on) u can't use the screen itself because your brother watches something else (yes that's happen often in families),
    with one click u can do that with the family domain from everypc in your house ,whereas with plain windows.................

    "Another problem is access to my files and hardware. If you take a look at the second picture you can see that all my files and hardware is available from both computers at the same time. This is accomplished thanks to Wi-Fi. Files and data are accessible to all 4 computers due to it being shared from a central server"

    sorry but wrong again - what u had said is plain data centralization, example: which i have shown you btw ,
    favorites - needs to be on server which is an always on pc. movies won't sit on the server because the'll probably will be shown on the media-pc which is a hibernated pc thus if you want to access from another media-pc to movies it will take ou about the time to get from the living room to your room to the pc getting out of hibernate.

    Today’s families need more than one computer, in fact, most have more than one. However, no company has yet to provide a solution. For software we have Microsoft, but Microsoft is like Intel.

    for data which is the most important thing incase you have forgot that, there is not a good solution for handle it under family environment, and with today growth of data size in cases like that.

    What is the purpose of the “Search my PC” tool? To find data! Which is a good thing when you consider that HDDs are usually in a mess on shared PCs.

    hehe don't be sarcastic (sorry to say but that's typical for one field viewer - google deskbar and ms deskbar were came out because of data not orginized as well whereas in a home domain it will.

    last one

    A family of 5 people will need 4 silent PCs (1 for each family member (parents share a single PC) and a main HTPC), then another 4 PCs for the Office. So that’s 8 PCs (not including mobile devices). They would also need a firewall and a central server to control data.

    don't think of a pc as personal computer with the standart purpose, it's also your :
    dvd library
    cd  "
    game consule
    picture book

    and of course window to the internet.

    i guess you have one multipc that does it all.




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    CRPietschma​nn

    This looks neat, but where can we get it? Better yet, where can we get the code?

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    staceyw

    LOL... My kids and I laughed all morning with that bunny picture.  I am using that one.  Perfect, thanks.

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    PerfectPhase

    agent__smith wrote:

    btw u got pc @ bedroom ?


    no but I have a laptop that's much more usefull.

    agent__smith wrote:

    you got it all wrong - u want to change playlist on the media pc (tv is off ht is on) u can't use the


    I change my playlist via a wireless PDA that talks to my music server. 

    agent__smith wrote:

    sorry but wrong again - what u had said is plain data centralization, example: which i have shown you btw ,
    favorites - needs to be on server which is an always on pc. movies won't sit on the server because the'll
    probably will be shown on the media-pc which is a hibernated pc thus if you want to access from another media-pc to movies it will take ou about the time to get from the living room to your room to the pc getting out of hibernate.


    Wake-On-Lan works quite well for this.  Your also wrong about the data storage, you want to push as much of your data back to a central server as possible, this gives you better options of redundancy (such as RAID) as convential backup methods are usless for this amount of data at home.  It also means that you can dump the harddrives from the more 'embbeded' type machines such as the one in you home theater system reducing the noise output and the MTBF.


    agent__smith wrote:

    don't think of a pc as personal computer with the standart purpose, it's also your :
    dvd library
    cd  "
    game consule
    picture book

    and of course window to the internet.


    And so much more.....

    agent__smith wrote:

    i guess you have one multipc that does it all.


    I have many, many PC....

    Sorry what was you point?

    Stephen

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    agent__smith

    first of all thank you we're getting serious now

    the point is a home domain.

    and you need to see the whole picture of such a product, which doesn't exist today.a home domain can't be achived today due to windows limitation, in numerous fields.it starts with the fact that this product isn't for poeple like us but the majority of poeple who use computers as a smart type writer. in 2/3 years pda will reach the middle pc in terms of speed to run media. when that will happen the " i want all everywhere" must be reality. microsoft sorry to say isn't going that way.

    and as for me i think i got the point of it

    in month or so i'll start building my home domain
    and well as one of the repliers here - it's neat.

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    MasterPi

    They are considering of releasing a Longhorn Server version for home users.  That might address what you're talking about.


    mVPstar

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    agent__smith

    just for the record "i had not seen the product"

    i am writing now after reading and searching for bits of nfo all over the internet including applying at ms beta site about the vista beta1 that came out few weeks ago.
    my conclutions till the very second that i am writing this reply - LOL

    but they are on a better way.

    still the master rule everything everytime everywhere is far beyond being complete.

    i had finally managed to get a pc for the domain controller, i will install him and you will start to see what i am talking about.

    few things about the vista for your attention are :

    *search my pc got bigger - which mean data is still a mess"

    *user profile were relocated - finally

    *graphics is awsome though a fast pc will be needed to enjoy the experience.

    *file synch - that's the direction i am talking about. (go ms)

    still the old bugs of thinking not in simple way reappear.

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