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    Chosin

    MMS was in VEGAS! not houston the town that closes at 5 pm. I know I would be going for the training not for the town. But it is nice to have a day or so before and or after to relax and enjoy.

    I have been to conferences in Houston at that dump, where I walked for 3 blocks melting in the heat. Went to a vendor party at rooftop bar. Thought I was going to die and left.

    At least in Vegas you stay in the same building as the summit. There is alway something to do before and after.

    I think I will find a better way to spend my training dollars.

    Houston??? really. Even oralando has Disney so the wife and kids could come and have fun. but Houston!!! what crap!

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    Scott_​Ladewig

    Sorry to hear that you feel that way, but I'm looking forward to being in Houston. Every city has its pros and cons. Considering how often TechEd is held in cities like New Orleans and Orlando, humidity is a fact of life. I don't think anyone suffered too badly last year in New Orleans. In the end, does it really matter what city it is in? The content and opportunities at the event are really why we're all there (well, most of us).

    Hopefully you'll reconsider and give it a chance, but if there are other events that better fit what you're looking for in 2014, then maybe we'll see you in 2015.

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    Koolwizz

    I was also disappointed in the changes of not having MMS and not too thrilled having the conference in Houston.  However, I am going to give it a shot to attend Tech-Ed.  I am begging to hope that future conferences are held in better locations.  Even though the whole idea of going to the conferences is to network with others and learn the new content, in cities where there is much to do also adds to a better experience. 

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    Scott_​Ladewig

    @Koolwizz: I'm curious to know what specifically it is that you are concerned that Houston is "missing" compared to other cities.

    Microsoft's Worldwide Partner Conference was in Houston this year, and I heard pretty good feedback from partners who were there. Check out the Houston Visitors site for more info about things to do.

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    Famousaj

    , Chosin wrote

    MMS was in VEGAS! not houston the town that closes at 5 pm. I know I would be going for the training not for the town. But it is nice to have a day or so before and or after to relax and enjoy.

    I have been to conferences in Houston at that dump, where I walked for 3 blocks melting in the heat. Went to a vendor party at rooftop bar. Thought I was going to die and left.

    At least in Vegas you stay in the same building as the summit. There is alway something to do before and after.

    I think I will find a better way to spend my training dollars.

    Houston??? really. Even oralando has Disney so the wife and kids could come and have fun. but Houston!!! what crap!

     

    get in on the clsoing party bro! Big Smile

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    Harjit

    , Chosin wrote

    MMS was in VEGAS! not houston the town that closes at 5 pm. I know I would be going for the training not for the town. But it is nice to have a day or so before and or after to relax and enjoy.

    I have been to conferences in Houston at that dump, where I walked for 3 blocks melting in the heat. Went to a vendor party at rooftop bar. Thought I was going to die and left.

    At least in Vegas you stay in the same building as the summit. There is alway something to do before and after.

    I think I will find a better way to spend my training dollars.

    Houston??? really. Even oralando has Disney so the wife and kids could come and have fun. but Houston!!! what crap!

    As Scott has mentioned, I'm also sorry that you feel this way.  You have to ask yourself if you are looking at TechEd as first and foremost a time and excuse to party and learning comes second or great learning opportunities first, then everything else including fun is secondary.  If getting some good training content is the primary focus, then location should not quite matter since you should expect to spend a good part of your day indoors in lecture halls.  As far as fun is concerned, there are plenty of opportunities on a daily basis and in fact too much at times.  Networking and making friends and hooking up with friends from past TechEd events will surely make one have a good time.  I'm grateful that I have the opportunity to attend and my first and foremost focus at TechEd is to soak in, absorb, and gather as much info as I can get on the technologies I support as part of my career as an IT Professional. 

    Finally, everyone has a choice to make of their own.
    Cheers.

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    mfifer

    Regarding the heat, if you stay at the Hilton, you need never leave the AC...

    -=- mf

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    Harjit

    , mfifer wrote

    Regarding the heat, if you stay at the Hilton, you need never leave the AC...

    -=- mf

    Good point, but you'll pay the increased premium for that benefit. Smiley

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    DavidCarr

    you can stay close if you like. There are always things to do in the evenings at TechEd. This is the first time it will be in Houston. i suggest looking at yelp.com Houston talk boards and find out from the locals what to do. You never know what can happen. Maybe someone who appreciates learning can take your spot.

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    Harjit

    Follow the Countdown Shows by Rick Claus and Joey Snow where a lot is talked about in terms of what Houston has to offer.  Another show will be released tomorrow.

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    KnightGal

    Actually, for people who are going for the technical knowledge, holding it in a city that is somewhat free from frivolous distractions can be a real plus.  Host it in a family vacation city and some folks' kids and spouse want to go, and then they bug them to skip sessions and conference group events to do stuff with them.  Hold it in a place like Vegas and the boondoggle label will keep some people from being able to go at all.  The vast majority of my job revolves around Lync, but my request to attend the Lync Conference was denied because it's being held in Las Vegas (not that I was that keen on going to Vegas anyhow).  

    When I consider a conference, I look at content quality/applicability and an environment conducive to being able to absorb that content (almost any major conference center can provide this), and then accessibility/affordability.  I sometimes wonder when I see so many posts about the quality of the free backpacks, snacks in the alumni lounge, food, and the entertainment events.  Sure, fun, food and swag enhance the experience, but hopefully that's not why most people attend.  I'm more concerned with whether I'm going to sit through an informative keynote or a two-hour whiz bang commercial, whether I'll be able to get real tips based on real experience at a session or whether I'll fall asleep from someone reading me dry text out of a manual, whether the sessions will deal with products/services/processes I use (or WILL use) and whether the product experts with whom I want to interface will be there and available for discussion.... these can be make-it-or-break-it regardless of where the event is held.

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    Fredrik​Nilsson

    Downtown Atlanta isnt really an amusement park either!

    As long as there's hotels, bars, food and awesome content they could host TechEd on a raft in the middle of the Atlantic in mid winter. I would still attend.Cool

    I think Houston will be as awesome as any other place. Hey I can get Cowboy hats for the kids, how awesome is that!

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    Harjit

    @KnightGal:You make some good points and I agree somewhat.  However, everyone is responsible for their own actions and desires when they go to a conference, whether that being they turn it into a social trip, booze fest, family vacation on company time and funds, or are actually there for the learning and conference content.  Everyone sets their priorities, although some are highly questionable and defeats the purpose, but in my case, I'm there first and foremost for the training, knowledge gathering, building my skill set for my career and other good stuff the conference offers.  Since, I'm very much alive and a social person, I then build my networking opportunities around that and have some fun after hours to break the monotony of nothing but learning. 

    In terms of the venue locations for the conferences, the challenge is to have a place that can host over 10,000 people with plenty of rooms for sessions, meals, vendors, bathrooms, etc, which also needs to meet occupancy codes.  The logistics to put something together in such scale is tremendous and quite challenging.  Quite recently, I was fortunate to spend some time with the planning team where I got to experience the behind-the-scenes process.  I'm amazed that they are able to do what they do. 

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    Fredrik​Nilsson

    @KnightGal: Before I attended my first TechEd Conference I was also really worried over the content and the depth of the sessions. My worst nightmare would have been sales talk and sessions that wasnt in parity or higher then my own. I can tell you I was stunned. I learned so much in just four days that I had to download and re-watch the sessions again so that I didnt miss any information. I have attended every year since and every year has been better then the year before.

    There are sessions that are not right for me and some that are much more advanced. I dont work with Lync, I just use it Smiley But there are Lync sessions and also the UC Roundtable that might be right down your alley. There are also quite a few MVP, MCM that more then likely will provide you with the knowledge and deapth you are looking for.

    I rarely have time to get me SWAG but I try to use the Expo area to contemplate and rest my brain because the vast amount of information you will get at teched can easily give you headache. When I do I get SWAG off course but I try o limit it down to stuff I like and things that I will use.

    I travel quite a bit from time to time and the worst part of that is lurking in my hotel room with nothing to do. That is why I try to attend all the festivities I can so that I get new friends. When I go somewhere now there is a good chance I have someone to talk to or share a pint or two with.

    I go to teched for the sessions and the networking. I don't skip sessions for SWAG or parties. my priority is sessions first and then networking.

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    Patrick​Dunlap

    Took two trips to Texas this year, one in Austin (nice college town) and the other in Houston.    Hot, humid, and borning. One travel site listed it as the 2nd most boring large city in the world.

    I enjoyed New Orleans last year.  I got there two days before, saw the city and took in the culture.  The vendor parties took advantage of the culture and themed their events accordingly.  Enjoyed the con, enjoyed the trip.  My company encourages us to enjoy our trips.  When I was last in UK for business, they put us up in Bath and sent us on a side trip to Stonehenge. 

    They do have some really great food in Texas.  Their beers, not so much. Houston, boring, catch up on your sleep.

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    waynelcross

    Where the is the @TheKrewe ... there will ALWAYS be fun.. heaven or hell. Hang with friends each evening and follow the blogs. After a full day of sessions, we are always going to find a place to hang out for the evening.

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    Harjit

    , waynelcross wrote

    Where the is the @TheKrewe ... there will ALWAYS be fun.. heaven or hell. Hang with friends each evening and follow the blogs. After a full day of sessions, we are always going to find a place to hang out for the evening.

    Right on, Wayne.

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    TechPorVida

    I attended TechEd for the first time last year in New Orleans.  TechEd was a lot to take in, a bit of a challenge figuring out where I wanted to be next, and I tell others it was like trying to drink from a fire hose.  I wouldn't have missed it for anything and I'm sorry it took me years before I attended.  You can bet I'll never miss it again.  I foot my own bill because it's a great investment in myself.

    MS did an outstanding job getting us back and forth to our hotels and otherwise seeing to our comfort and needs. What impressed me the most?  I couldn't tell you who was more thrilled to be there, me or the MS instructors.  Each and every one of the instructors were clearly thrilled to be there, gave so much of themselves, and if they didn't have the answer I got an email to follow up with them.  Their enthusiasm was contagious. 

    I agree with FredrikNilsson.  Frankly I don't care where they hold it. 

    Fun in Houston?  I can find fun anywhere. I'm going in on Saturday to do some grave hunting and hopefully some excellent horseback riding.  Sunday I'll be doing the MS Community thing.  So cool MS does for the local community.  In the evenings, I'm sure I'll make new friends and hangout.  Or maybe just get wrinkly like a raisin from floating in the pool too long and sipping cocktails.  :)

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