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    JScript

    a ! wrote:

    Will it take off and become a major player?


    As opposed to what... being considered little more than the utilization of existing technologies (subject to breaking-changes, sporadic implementations, incompatible user settings and the like, as usual)?

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    CaptainNick

    you really haven't been paying attention, have you?
    http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2005/06/28/416185.aspx

    Microsoft is releasing a toolkit to make Ajax-style interactions easier using ASP.Net at PDC.  It is called Atlas.

    We've been doing XMLHTTP software for years.  It is good to see the rest of the Internet wake up and realize the utility of it.

    See my blog:
    http://blogs.msdn.com/nickmalik/archive/2005/07/08/436823.aspx

    --- Nick Malik
        Architect
        Microsoft

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    PhatBoyG

    It's funny, I read about AJAX when the hype landed and I thought to myself, "Haven't we already been doing this since 2000?"

    Mind you, I use FireFox for 90% of my surfing. The only time I use IE is when I'm working on our application or hitting MSDN (or any site that is integrated with MS technologies). So it's nice to see the benefits of asynchronous callbacks using XML taking hold in other browsers.

    Of course, most sites won't use it because they like to refresh their banners every page load. Of course, there are solutions to that as well (AvantBrowser, AdBlock, etc.).

    I'm looking forward to seeing Atlas and what it has to offer our application.

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    dotnetjunkie

    Yeah, developers of rich web applications (like myself) have been doing this for ages!

    The topic starter really has no clue, it's a NON-issue, it's not about future, this is reality today, and in use in thousands of websites / applications.

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    Yahoo using AJAX in Newest Search Beta


    http://www.ysearchblog.com/archives/000186.html

    http://instant.search.yahoo.com/

    Although interactive "Ajax" Web applications like this one are gaining in notoriety, they’re still far from mainstream. Instant Search represents an experience that’s different from what most of us expect from a search engine, so it takes a little getting used to

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    AdamKinney

    Atlas.asp.net was made public this week.  That's a good place to find out more information.

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    a !

    Although this technology has been around a while - Giving it a Marketable Memorable NAME has made an immense difference in it's aknowlegement.  These stories are JUST FROM ONE MORNING ALONE


          And that could bode ill for Microsoft Corp. and its flagship Office suite, which packs together word processing, spreadsheets and other applications. 
          The threat comes in large part from Ajax, a set of Web development tools that speeds up Web applications by summoning snippets of data as needed instead of pulling entire Web pages over and over.

    http://business.bostonherald.com/technologyNews/view.bg?articleid=108456

    http://www.legitreviews.com/newsposts.php?id=1335

    AJAX and Atlas only let you send Javascript down. You will see that deploymet as Ajax in Windows extend to other capabilities in the Windows environment," he said.

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=2039

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1876535,00.asp

    http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8DE8IIOO.html

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    mattrmiller

    I think it has a good future. I used it a little in my latest project. My only concern is that is does not become exploited for advertisers like flash has become.

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    PaoloM

    a ! wrote:
    Although this technology has been around a while - Giving it a Marketable Memorable NAME has made an immense difference in it's aknowlegement.  These stories are JUST FROM ONE MORNING ALONE

    Ok, enough with the hype. If you are a developer and you didn't know about this technology in 1998, please hand your dev badge back, you're not worthy.

    If you are a user... uh... why do you care?

    If you are an "internet journalist" on the other hand... well, that makes all the difference. I may introduce you to incredible new ideas, like Web 2.0 or folksonomies or mashups or... you get the idea.

    We, as intelligent people involved in this industry, should start browbeating these hypemeisters and self-proclaimed pundits. Use your own head, don't rent thought processes from others.

    That is all.

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    a !

    AFLAX is in the news - but not for IE Perplexed


    AFLAX (Wikipedia Entry) is a method through which developers may use JavaScript and Flash together to create AJAX-type applications, but with a much richer set of vector drawing controls than are available in either Internet Explorer or FireFox. Developers using this library have access to the full range of Flash features, but without ever touching the Flash IDE.


    http://www.aflax.org/

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    a !


    Interesting how important creating Buzz words or Marketing can be at the right time - think of all the people really responsible for creating this programming that  will not get credit



    Led by "The Father of AJAX" himself, the charismatic Jesse James Garrett of Adaptive Path, "Real-World AJAX" has

    http://www.ajaxseminar.com/

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    blowdart

    The father of Ajax?

    So he was on the Outlook Web Edition team?

    Oh no, he wasn't, he just coined the phrase Ajax. Dear lord *sigh*

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    a !

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2088644,00.asp

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/micro-markets/?p=920

    "Back in '96-'97, me and a group of people, many of whom are here at Google, helped build stuff that these days is called AJAX," Bosworth said. "We sat down and took a hard look at what was going to happen with the Internet and we concluded, in the face of unyielding opposition and animosity from virtually every senior person at Microsoft, that the thick client was on its way out and it was going to be replaced by browser-based apps.

    "Saying this at Microsoft back in '96 was roughly equivalent to wandering around in a fire wearing matches," he said. "But we concluded we should go and build this thing. And we put all this stuff together so people could build thin-client applications."

    That was 10 years ago. "Now you hear about AJAX all the time, but this was built in '97," Bosworth said. Yet, AJAX failed for a variety of reasons, including some "big mistakes."

    The mistakes, he said, were misperceptions of the realities of the way people would use the technology.

    For instance, Bosworth said a cardinal rule of his is KISS, or, in his words, "Keep It Simple and Stupid." Gestures like tooling, icons, right-click and drag-drop are too obscure, he said.

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    phreaks

    dotnetjunkie wrote:
    Yeah, developers of rich web applications (like myself) have been doing this for ages!

    The topic starter really has no clue, it's a NON-issue, it's not about future, this is reality today, and in use in thousands of websites / applications.


    It's odd that when it was simply 'Remote Scripting' no one cared or noticed for 7+ years. Now call it Ajax and wham! instant hit.

    Go Figure.

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    phreaks

    AdamKinney wrote:

    Atlas.asp.net was made public this week.  That's a good place to find out more information.



    Site no worky.

    It's asking for domain credentials to authenticate.

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    blowdart

    phreaks wrote:
    
    AdamKinney wrote:

    Atlas.asp.net was made public this week.  That's a good place to find out more information.



    Site no worky.

    It's asking for domain credentials to authenticate.


    Try

    http://ajax.asp.net/

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