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  • earnshaw

    The aforementioned Knowledge Base article pertaining to Windows XP (defunct) contains these words:

    Registry Key and Values

     

    When security settings are set in Windows XP, the following registry key is used:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa

    The values are:

    • ForceGuest=1: Use this value to force guests on
    • ForceGuest=0: Use this value to force guests off

     

    Actually, the purpose of the ForceGuest registry key is to turn on or turn off the "classic" Security Tab so administrators are able to change the rules in Discretionary Access Control Lists.  DACLs are associated with directories and files.  The default for some SKUs of Windows XP is to make the security tab in Windows Explorer go missing.  This has something to do with the "Guest" user being "forced" to logon in some peculiar way when a computer belongs not to a Domain but to a Workgroup.   It was decided 10 or 15 years ago that having a Guest logon to a Workgroup posed a major problem if the Security tab were to remain available by default.  So it was whisked away and the ForceGuest key was born with this lame "explanation."

    This isn't a technical problem so much as another iteration of the inability of puzzler-style technologists to describe and explain what they decide to do and why.   Now, if I want the Security tab to appear, do I want to force guests on or do I want to force guests off?   I dunno.

     

  • AndyC

    "It was decided 10 or 15 years ago that having a Guest logon to a Workgroup posed a major problem if the Security tab were to remain available by default."

    Actually, I think it was more to do with making XP more friendly to people coming from the Win 9x line by trying to hide some of the complexity of NT Security. That's one of the reasons the security tab was hidden, because it was deemed to complicated for Home users to grasp.

    At a guess, I'd say ForceGuest=1 turns on 'XP Home' mode, hiding the security tab and treating all network users as the 'Guest' account for sharing purposes. Still, it's only a binary switch so it's not exactly major hassle to try it and see.

    Since the whole thing has effectively been superseeded by HomeGroups as a much easier way of configuring sharing between Home computers, it seems a bit late to complain about the KB article now.

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