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  • OneDrive problems

    , Craig_​Matthews wrote

    *snip*

    Isn't that really the same argument Raymond Chen made though for why in early builds in Vista, they couldn't resolve the user's full name on the breadcrumb bar EVER because there was the possibility that the laptop would not be on the network and would cause Explorer to hang?

    Doesn't this objection really disappear with:

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    if (Internet.Connected){ do the thing }else{ dont do the thing }endif

    GUI:

    ( ) "Delay Shutdown Until Files are Synced (Only when Internet is available)"

    Really?

     

    Maybe, but you've re-introduced the original problem only a lot more subtly.

    You write your code on your laptop, save it to OneDrive and have turned on the "Don't shut down till my files are synced" setting. You go to shut down, but unbeknownst to you at the time, the wifi connection drops momentarily (or slows down or whatever other conditions might apply) whilst the machine is waiting to shut down. So now what happens is you've shut the machine down, your source hasn't synced and when you arrive at work, you've got the old version (or worse a half-updated code base).

    Honestly using something like VS Online (which is free) or GitHub (also free) is just a better solution for the problem, precisely because it's purpose built to solve that problem.

  • Annoying "Get W10" updates

    , Ray7 wrote

    *snip*

    Because it's a single laptop that I had to buy for testing IE and is not part of any domain. The real question is why do I need a controlled deployment set up just to avoid intrusive marketing. 

    Don't get me wrong, the advert annoys me no end. I've an i7 HP laptop running Windows 8 that has a really flaky video card that bluescreens if you use it with any driver other than the one originally shipped with it (for Windows 7). Installing 8 originally was a pain, but 10 is a complete no-go since it steadfastly refuses to allow me to update without updating the graphics driver and  hence the installation fails and rolls back. So I'm stuck with the annoying advert offering me an update I can't take even if I wanted to.

    In a Domain environment though, the entire point is controlled management, so allowing random updates to be installed feels a lot like doing it wrong.

     

  • OneDrive problems

    , magicalclick wrote

    *snip*seriously what's wrong with his idea? Why couldn't MS just simply add an optional setting to say, if not all files are uploaded, prevent shutdown like how Word does it? It is optional. It doesn't even take much to implement as well. For such simple improvement, casual users can have their own peace of mind. I just don't see why must we dismiss his idea. You might not need it. That's your preferences. Some other people will find it useful for such simple feature. This kind of dismissive culture does not improve the product.

    You're sat on a train, make a few last minute edits to some documents for work but there's no internet or power. You need it when you get to your destination, so you save your document, hit shut down and throw it in your bag. When you get to your destination you take the oddly warm laptop out of your bag, see it failed to shut down and the battery is basically dead. You curse Microsoft for their stupid OS not doing what you told it to.

    Things blocking shutdown have repeatedly proved to be a really bad idea.

  • Annoying "Get W10" updates

    I'm not a fan of Windows 10, it still has way too many issues to really  be "production ready", but why on Earth aren't you using WSUS or similar to control deployment of updates in your domain?

  • Date stored as an int in SQL Server

    Select Cast(xxx As DateTime)

    Really not recommended though and with the newer types (like DateTime2) which you definitely should be using, isn't allowed.

     

  • Your Oldest Windows 10 Device?

    An Intel Atom based eeePC 900a. Not blisteringly fast, but still perfectly usable. Probably actually runs better than the XP install it originally shipped with.

  • They might have well said...

    @kettch: Belfiore makes it pretty clear they think of convertibles as "laptop which occasionally get used as tablets" and from that point of view, many of the kludges that come along with the Windows desktop environment are passable. If you expect to mostly work on the desktop, then you probably overlook how the experience works the other way around ie as a "tablet that occasionally becomes a laptop"

    So things like the tray notification area being full of finger unfriendly icons is a pain. Metro apps appearing and permanently remaining on the taskbar is a pain  - seriously turn that option on in Windows 8.1, run through using 30/40 tablet apps as a tablet user would and then switch back to the desktop and try to clean up the mess - and a million and one other little points have reverted to the idea that it "works OK" for touch if you just slightly resize buttons even though this demonstrably didn't work in Windows 7.

    And the thing is, Desktop users should be the ones complaining about this more than anything, because if you can't get the convertible scenario to work you might as well abandon the entire concept and have a tablet edition that is entirely separate from the desktop/laptop version, which would allow you to avoid having to restrict the desktop at times to accommodate these devices. 

  • Windows 10, first thoughts.

    @Ian2: Yeah, I've noticed some occasional odd crashes so something isn't quite right there.

    @Proton2: Me too, the desktop IE is a lot more clunky and I've gotten used to the nice surfing experience on my Surface 2. I'm trying to give them a pass on the tablet side of things until that gets put in though (trying to use it as-is on a tablet would certainly be horrible)

  • They might have well said...

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    I don't want to go back to the days of Windows for Pen Computing with the desktop as the centerpiece for those devices.

    Judging by what they've announced so far, that's exactly what you're going to get though. It's pretty obvious at this point that the experience for convertible devices is going to be so thoroughly hobbled by the slavish devotion to the Windows 95 user interface that you have to wonder why they just don't dump the concept entirely and just continue Windows 8 (with the desktop entirely stripped out) for tablets and then just permanently ship the Windows 7 UI atop the current kernel for desktop systems.

  • Windows 10, first thoughts.

    So what do Niners think of the Windows 10 Tech Preview then? (I asumming most of us have installed it!)

    Having picked up a cheap Lenovo this afternoon and given it a bit of a spin, here are my initial thoughts:

    Cut + Paste in the command line - Nice, but I'd hoped for something a bit more Mouse friendly, as it seems to insist on you selecting text with the keyboard (unless you Mark old style). It's also a bit quirky in places, e.g. doing a CTRL-X does a Copy, rather than a Cut, which isn't really what I'd expect.

    Lack of window borders - Bit Mac-ified, the shadowing effect somewhat helps but I still think it makes it unnecessarily hard to see the edges of applications, I think I preferred solid borders.

    The Start Menu. Well, what's to say. As someone who uses lots of Modern apps, naturally it started off polluted with a huge list of "Install" options for every app I use or have just tried once, so required a lot of cleanup work first before it's even vaguely usable as a menu. In all likelihood I'll never do any more than search with it (as with Vista/7) so in that regards it's at least a big improvement over those by not constraining the end results as much and by integrating web search too.

    The lack of an easy "Fetch all my Modern apps" option was a pain in the butt too, since it basically meant going through the Start Menu clicking every entry just to kick off downloading of apps. Surely there has to be a better way than that?

    By far the most broken feature is the Virtual Desktop stuff though, it's got all sorts of quirky behaviour because (I suspect) it seems to be trying to maintain a single Taskbar across them all. This has the exciting side-effect that occasionally launching an app like Notepad can suddenly reconfigure your entire display, because you had Notepad open on another desktop and Windows takes that to mean you want to switch to it. Terrible, terrible UI. Let's hope that gets a major overhaul soon, although judging by the Continuum stuff, I think the Taskbar is in desperate need of a complete re-think anyway, so maybe that's already on the cards.

    Will be interested to see how things change as Continuum and other features arrive, but right now it feels much more of a step back than one forward.