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Bass Bass Knows the way the wind is flowing.
  • Will Windows 2000 get a nice patch funeral?

    ManipUni said:
    Bass said:
    *snip*

    What are you even replying to? Since none of what your responding to has anything to do with anything I have said.

     

    As I said both projects are extremely good. They just aren't used very often outside of a well configured server. I'm talking about desktop Linux. I have nothing but respect for its server big brother but on the desktop it is almost sad...

    Fedora is often used as a desktop. I think there are at least two Niners who use Fedora. As I said, Fedora does use SELinux extensively. I've even seen RHEL desktops before, I don't think Red Hat has a problem with people using it in that way as long as they pay the license fees. Smiley

     

    I'm just curious, what is your Linux experience? Have you used Linux on the desktop, at all, let alone recently?

  • Will Windows 2000 get a nice patch funeral?

    ManipUni said:
    Bass said:
    *snip*

    Amazing projects. I'm a big fan. Shame so few configurations make any use of them...

    Red Hat uses SELinux by default *extensively*. I'm sure you'd know this if you used RHEL or Fedora recently. Smiley Ubuntu uses AppArmor. But it's definitely not as hardened as RHEL, it's still not terrible.

     

    Keep in mind SELinux was created by the top security agency in the US Department of Defense, in order to make instill military-grade security into Linux. These people are responsible for protecting some of the most sensitive things imaginable (eg: nuclear weapons access). Perhaps you think they may have done a bad job with this?

  • Will Windows 2000 get a nice patch funeral?

    ManipUni said:

    Linux is one of the least hardened OSs on the market right now. They just pat themselves on the back because malicious code isn't even developed for the platform and they believe that somehow being open source will magically protect them (*even if PHP applications as one example disproves that theory). But worse still, is that configuration mistakes make up a very large proportion of attacks made against Linux systems (far larger than most other OSs).

     

    Why? Well one can only assume that Linux is made up with so many discrete components each of which have independent configuration mechanisms that it leaves a lot to be overlooked.

     

     

    Have you heard of SELinux or AppArmor?

  • Will Windows 2000 get a nice patch funeral?

    ManipUni said:

    Doesn't the fact that I need "years" of experience with Linux desktops in order to understand how awesome they are just further prove my point?

    Well it's a bit like writing a movie review without watching the movie.

  • Will Windows 2000 get a nice patch funeral?

    ManipUni said:

    I also struggle with the logical leap from "XP doesn't support DX10" to "Start using Linux!!!" (which also doesn't support DX10 incidentally).

     

    Here are reasons NOT to use Linux:

     - Usability isn't even up to Windows 95 levels yet.

     - Only "moderate" driver support (often lack advanced features) 

     - Very few high quality commercial applications or games

     - Slow

     - Insecure

     

    If I had to equate modern Linux graphical enviroments to Windows I would say Windows 3.1 roughly.

     

    PS - Don't misunderstand, it is a great server OS, and often times the HTTP configuration toolkits offer better usability than the windowing systems.

    What experience with the Linux desktop do you have that makes you qualified to say such things?

     

    I've been using Linux for years and the only thing I'd agree with you on is "Very few high quality commercial applications or games". But that's why virtual machines were invented. Smiley

  • Encyclopedia Britannica

    JoshRoss said:
    CreamFilling512 said:
    *snip*

    That's genius!  I could get one or two books and satisfy my idle curiosity and get cardboard fakes for the rest and satisfy my need to appear, to the casual onlooker, learned.  The good thing about the cardboard fakes is, they wouldn't weigh as much.  This would allow me to get cheap furniture from Ikea, instead of splurging on hardwood or steel bookcases.

     

    Except, if one of those casual onlookers, pulled one of those fakes off the shelf.  I would be fingered as a phony, immediately.  It is so hard today to keep a secret, with all these social networking services like Facebook. I might be better off just spending the money now to get the set.

    Do you really need fake books to look smart?

  • Building a Windows 7 Media Center Server

    DOUBLE POST

  • Building a Windows 7 Media Center Server

    Did you take a look at the AsRock ION 330?  It supports XBMC and all the usual stuff, and full 1080p video on Linux.

  • Will Windows 2000 get a nice patch funeral?

    Shining Arcanine said:
    Bass said:
    *snip*

    This is not a Ubuntu versus Windows comparison. Please stop making it one.

    I didn't really disagree with your mentioning/recommendation on Linux. I'm mostly a Linux user too. I use Ubuntu actually, I'm using it right now.

     

    But I don't post stuff like that. Not because I think wrong. No, I think your post was completely rational and normal suggestion that no one would think dirty of in a normal world. But since it's about an OS, such posts will end up getting most people all flustered. You will see that OS choices among geeks are super emotional things. Even more then programming languages.

     

    It's okay to insult Windows for instance, as long as your allegiance is to Windows. That's okay. Insult away. But you can't insult Windows if you conclusion after the insult is, "I'll just use a different OS". Think of OSes like wives. You get with an argument with your wife, and you say "I'll just get another wife". That's a pretty strong statement to make in an argument, huh? OSes are like wives to a lot of geeks.

     

  • Extensia

    Now that Codeplex supports Mercurial, perhaps someone should start a new Codeplex project and use Mercurial for VCS, which by it's design (a DVCS) encourages large contribution.