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  • Windows 10 Update in the Wild

    I just turned on my laptop and again there was an update dialog, again with no option to postpone. It was just 1 update, but I timed at and it took over 13 minutes to complete.

    So if I really needed to use the laptop during the next 30 minutes I would have been screwed. Luckily it was "convenient" for me this time around. Thanks MS!

  • Windows 10 Update in the Wild

    , magicalclick wrote

    Business computer should go Pro.

    But even Pro has that problem, unless you turn update off altogether. Why does it have to be all or nothing?

    One thing that really bugs me is when people make significant changes like this but aren't capable of thinking it through, and can't imagine that there could possibly be a use case where said change will have an undesirable impact.

    An intern could have told them it's a bad idea.

  • Windows 10 Update in the Wild

    I can't wait for some major public presentation (preferably something broadcast on national TV) and the presenter's computer goes into the forced update. You know it is going to happen :D

    I mean, just give us at least a few hours advanced notice so we can find an appropriate time to do it.

  • Windows 10 Update in the Wild

    A few weeks ago I had to log into a Webex meeting where I was to participate (not just listen). I wasn't at my usual location so a few minutes before the meeting I pulled out my laptop and fired it up.

    The first thing I see is a dialog telling me that updates need to be installed, an I can either do it now or in 10 (15?) minutes. There was no other option. So I thought about that and decided to do it first so that I'm not interrupted in the middle of the meeting.

    Well, since I haven't used the laptop in a while, there were 62 updates, which took somewhere between 5 and 10 minutes (didn't time it exactly), but suffice to say I missed the 1st part of the meeting. I had to call in and say I can't Webex in yet since my computer is doing a forced update and they will need to wait for me.

    I mean reeeaaaalllyyy!!! Who's the fcxh that thought this was a good idea?

  • I'm not happy with Windows 10 (details inside) - am I missing something?

    Here's the thing...

    Our brains are extremely powerful at identifying objects in real life. For example, if we look at a room with lots of small objects in it, we have no problem identifying each and seeing where one ends and the other starts.

    Now, the early UI designers recognized this phenomenon and used it to their advantage. Gradients, shadows etc were used so that with just one quick look, you knew what exactly you were looking at, what can be interacted with, where one ends and the other starts etc.

    To be very clear (and this can't be stressed enough)... This has absolutely nothing to do with skeuomorphism. They were not trying to make it look like anything in real life, they simply recognized that they can use that ability that every human being possesses to the advantage of everyone.

    Now, on the other hand the geniuses that designed the "modern" language thought that removing each and every depth cue was a great way to "clean up" the UI. You know, make it just like the phone UI, where you don't need any depth cues at all because the UI is simple and nothing overlaps.

    For anybody that understands this basic UI concept, having to be subjected to W8/10 is a giant step backwards because we know that what we are forced to look at was born out of pure ignorance.

    This is why I now have trouble finding the thumbs on scrollbars (once you can even get them to show up). Trouble knowing which part is the thumb and which part is the track if it is scrolled all the way to the top or bottom, because the dark/light is reversed depending on which app/application you work with. Trouble identifying where one window starts and another ends when I have many overlapping windows. Trouble finding the title bar to drag a window with many overlapping windows. The hit area of the sizing cursor is now outside the window because they had to extend it due to the too-narrow border. Oversized controls wasting huge amounts of space, because placing them too close together will make it hard to visually separate each since all we are looking at are monochrome lines, rectangles and circles. Icons that lost their individuality and hence are now harder to memorize and identify.

    All of this because someone had a stick up their @$$ about removing anything and everything that might possibly be misconstrued as being skeuomorphic on any level.

    There is a good balance between being actually skeuomorphic (e.g. like Apple with their brushed metal, wood, leather), and having everything 100% flat. What we have now is a step backwards, and if you can't see why, it means you don't grasp these concepts. Just like the W8/10 designers, who should have been kept far away from being able to make these sorts of changes instead of letting the inexperienced UI designers experiment with something as important as this.

  • how about this: make a COMPLICATED metro app

    OK, serious question...

    I'm playing with VS 2015 trying to create a UWP app that spawns two modeless child windows. The child windows must at least be movable outside of the main window. So far no luck.

    The best I can do is show a modal child window. I was able to enable dragging on it, but it just pops back to the center of the parent when you let it go.

    I did quite a bit of searching with no luck. How is this done?

  • how about this: make a COMPLICATED metro app

    , bondsbw wrote


    Fully built examples?  I don't know of any.  Which isn't surprising, because 1) UWP app submissions just opened recently, and 2) I haven't cared enough to look.  I don't even know if Microsoft distinguishes UWP apps in its store, and I'm not on a Windows 10 computer to check right now.

    Feel free to look for them yourself.

    Uh, not examples (as in samples), real applications, duh. Examples of, you know, real applications.

    Since you claimed it can be done, the challenge was that you show a single complex application (which is also the whole point of this thread, btw). So far nothing. Not even MS has been able to develop a single impressive app so far.

    So why exactly should I prove your point since you said it should be no problem?

    On the other hand, here is my proof: Visit Windows Store

  • how about this: make a COMPLICATED metro app

    , kettch wrote


    You are quick to mock the UI guidelines for UWP apps, but you clearly haven't looked at any of them. If someone wanted to build a mouse-and-keyboard oriented application using UWP, there would be nothing to stop them. In fact, it would probably be a good exercise of the platform. It would be nice if they made sure that their application was adaptive, but not mandatory.

    Examples? Is that too much to ask for?

    I went through all controls in VS 2015 and played with them. Really, it's not something I want to use for anything serious, let alone a very complex application.

  • how about this: make a COMPLICATED metro app

    , bondsbw wrote


    Did you once again ignore the fact that I said UWP apps can spawn multiple windows?  Why do you keep acting like that is a limitation?

    Sigh. I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to this comment from spivonious:

    And I hate applications with multiple floating windows. They always get lost behind other windows or get in the way on top of something I'm trying to work with...

  • how about this: make a COMPLICATED metro app

    , bondsbw wrote


    Add this line of XAML to a UWP application:

    <Button Width="1" Height="1" />

    There, you have a button that is as small as any button could be...

    And which probably violates every "modern" design language principle in the book.

    If you thought this wasn't possible, why not?

    Hmm, I didn't actually think it wasn't possible. Just that if you were to follow the "modern" design language principles, it can't be done.

    But this brings me back to my original challenge which you failed so far... Show my any finger app that shows this type of use case. Any.