There is some speculation that they have a UA version of Skype in the works. That makes sense with the direction they've gone with Office.
Once again however Microsoft has botched the message or worse really means to give up on their tablet/phone/touch aspirations.
No sorry there's one that's even worse: They're rebooting Windows for Pen Computing and believe that's what people want on their tablets and phones. After all Apple with have muti-window/multitasking in iOS 9 so it's only logical that they'll implement a full window manager in iOS 10. Microsoft should beat them to the punch and restore that uber touch friendly environment that Windows for Pen Computing provided. :S
This is Microsoft giving up on an OS-centric approach to connecting people with their data and passing responsibility back to the owners of the data -- which is sadly Facebook, Linked-in, etc. It'll be up to them to provide the integration into our contacts, calendars, etc. Sadly that also means we'll need to move the 1st party apps for more complex operations like sending messages, posting, sharing pictures, etc. or go with some 3rd party solution like Tweetcaster. Goodbye nice integrated (but feature late) solution from Microsoft. The hamburger menu kinda makes sense now...
@bondsbw: I think Windows 10 Mobile is more that just ARM. I thought it was any sub 8 inch device that will be using the mobile interface (previously phone interface) as opposed to the "standard" Windows 10 interface. That includes small tablets.
As @Blue Ink mentioned they need people to understand the difference between "standard" Windows and "mobile" Windows in what they are capable of running and I'd add how the UI/UX will differ.
@magicalclick: Let's look at Wikipedia's definition of internet trolling:
And let me be clear... I mentioned WTWF because he was the most recent example. He is not the only one. Trolls can be on either side of the aisle. Several good topics have been trolled into oblivion. Good discussion can turn sour and become nothing but ad hominem attacks.
I almost agree with what you said here but I think the dynamic is more like troll vs. apologist as apologists can fan the flames of the discussion without trolling.
I'd also like to suggest to the group as a whole that we need to try and stay neutral and objective in our discussions rather than say everyone has to spin their response to the positive. It would also help if people would take things less personally. Just because you don't like what someone's opinion is doesn't mean you have to label them as being negative or a troll. The hard part is in taking the high road and letting it go even when someone is being overly trollish or apologetic.
@NoelCarboni: While I am also dubious about the ability for Microsoft to deliver the absolute best version of Windows 10 imaginable by summer, I'm not so worried now that their cycle has changed from "every feature that will be released must be released upon launch day" to "we will continue to improve by adding features and making changes in response to requests by users".
When Microsoft released the half-baked W8 and WP to the world how was it received? It was rejected and deemed a failure. IMO it was because Microsoft did not provide anything better than what the competition was offering. In a lot of ways what they were offering was worse -- with some people suggesting we cut Microsoft some slack as it took Android x number of years to penetrate the market so why not give Microsoft the same amount of time. Well history has been written and no amount of time has change the failures that have been W8 and WP -- regardless of how cool some of the technology and IU/UX it provided.
Now Microsoft is about to pull the same stunt -- releasing a beta as production software and hoping the world will believe once again that Microsoft will make it better some time in the future.
People can say "Apple and Google do it so why not Microsoft?" but that kind of reasoning ignores the fact that people judge Microsoft in-and-of-itself and not based on any other companies' track record or way they conduct business. Microsoft needs to produce products and services that people want in-and-of-themselves rather than blame the lack of acceptance because people are not being fair when they judge Microsoft's work. In some ways it seems Microsoft gets it (i.e. embracing Android, iOS, Linux and the like with their products and services without concern for Windows) but when it comes to Windows itself they can't seem to get it right.
In any case have a great weekend bondsbw and the rest of you too.
LOL. Point.Set.Match. Kettch sure does know how to pick a winner.
Careful now... Spinning "design without feedback" from the poor implementation of a new or revised feature whose solution was already proven in the past might come back to haunt you.
Microsoft - Where ignorance meets bliss (tm)
I think we need to be careful about pressing people too much for information about what they are doing, as this forum only goes quiet, while people avoid it because they might slip-up or unintentionally leak information about an incubation product.
Sven, blowdart and the rest work on commercially sensitive work, Charles has already castigated a certain journalist with the surname Foley or misappropriating his statements.