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  • Oh SkyDrive... Why hast thou forsaken me?

    , evildictaitor wrote

    I'd file a complaint with the skydrive team if I were you. My guess is that they didn't think of your specific use-case. The bug site is here:

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windowslive/forum/skydrive?auth=1

    Done. Thanks.

    , ScottWelker wrote

    Acquiesce and do it MS' way. Resistance is futile Wink

    (Sorry - just couldn't resist)

    Going to have to make a trip to Costco first. My industrial vat of Vaseline is out from all of the butt hurt W8 has caused already. 

  • Oh SkyDrive... Why hast thou forsaken me?

    After all of the nice things I had to say about SkyDrive today I am greeted by this error on my W8 boxes:

    SkyDrive has detected a Microsoft account has been connected to this PC

    Click "Ok" to sign in to SkyDrive with the Microsoft account you're using on this PC.

    My only options are to "Exit SkyDrive" or "Ok"

    Backstory: I have two Microsoft accounts, one for work related and one for personal. The files I want to sync are on my personal account. At work I login with my work account (linked to my work related Microsoft account) and want SkyDrive to sync my personal account's files.

    Previously this has not been a problem as the SkyDrive client for Windows lets you sign-in and sync with an account different than the Microsoft account that is linked with your PC login. Now it seems that they want to force you to use only the account that is linked to your PC login.

    I want my settings, favorites, metro apps, etc. to sync between the PC logins that I have linked to the related Microsoft account but files to be sync'd between all of my logins using one of my Microsoft accounts. I know my use case is probably rare but c'mon it was working just fine up until whatever they changed in the last 24 hours.

    BTW, I don't have this problem on my W7 box where I also have the same account linking going on along with the SkyDrive login mismatch.

    I guess it's time to look at g-drive again...

  • Need urgent assistant on zip file.

    , AndyC wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio: The entire point of blocking it in the first place is to avoid accidental execution of something a user didn't realise was executable. Prompting when doing something innocuous like unzipping a file invokes the "stupid Windows" response that leads to the user always clicking unblock.

    So you are saying that all of the prompting IE (for downloads) and Windows does (like with UAC) is a total waste of time? Make it obscure so the user just gives up; that makes sense. Perplexed

  • Need urgent assistant on zip file.

    , AndyC wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio: Great theory until somebody starts shipping a virus as a zipped .js. Then your 'convenient' prompt just becomes a vector for attack. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few in this case.

    So all of the other prompts I get from IE about suspicious downloads or other warnings from the OS that something is being blocked because it is suspicious is now an attack vector? Sounds like Microsoft's got their work cut out for them in securing W8 (and W7 for that matter). All I'm suggesting is that when a user goes to open or extract files from a blocked zip that they are warned and asked if they want to unblock it. Hey if people are too dumb to read and respond to a prompt then UAC was a big waste of time too.

  • Need urgent assistant on zip file.

    , AndyC wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio: I know what you mean, as it's bitten me a few times on Windows 7 in the past. However, I guess it's rare enough that providing a confusing prompt for the 99% of users would result in them accidentally unblocking files they shouldn't. And for the zipped executables they do need to use, they normally double click them (which does give a prompt) so in this case I think the decision is probably right, if occasionally annoying. Smiley

    99% of the users wouldn't get a prompt because they wouldn't get a zip with a .js file. I don't know if you noticed but W8 makes a point of getting in your face with prompts so if prompting is problematic then they went the wrong direction with W8. Frankly I'd rather know why something isn't working directly rather than having to guess my way through it.

  • Need urgent assistant on zip file.

    , AndyC wrote

    *snip*

    I assume that the difference between W8 and W7 is whether .js files are considered executable and they really should be.

    Quite how this would be a problem for Joe User is beyond me, what realistic scenario do you have in mind that is best served by sending your average user a .js file?

    I didn't assume the scope of the change was just .js files  (hence the question of what changed) but if that's it then no problem because that scenario will be uncommon for Joe six-pack. In any case they could improve the usability for us lowly devs by prompting if we want to unblock upon unzip rather than having to dig into the properties of the file.

  • Need urgent assistant on zip file.

    @cbae: "Unreliable" is just semantically incorrect. It's poorly implemented and makes it a pain to walk Joe-six-pack user though unzipping a file he downloaded from your website.

    The only question here is did Microsoft up the anti in W8 when it comes to downloaded zip files and blocking them? Like I said I don't have this problem on my W7 box.

  • **** move

    @wastingtimewithforums: Great arguments dude. Microsoft is trying to push people into the "new Windows" one little cut at a time. It doesn't matter what the data says. They're leveraging a captive install base to force a particular agenda (sound familiar?). Rather than build something that draws customers to it they just use a stick and say "look a carrot!" even though it's not a carrot but rather a boring potato (W8 on a desktop PC).

    All just my opinion of course. Smiley

  • Need urgent assistant on zip file.

    , GoddersUK wrote

    *snip*

    Yes, because opening a zip file isn't a basic feature that people will expect to just work Perplexed

    (And because opening a zip file in the 7zip UI is clearly a bazillion times more user friendly than opening a zip in the Windows Explorer UI Perplexed)

    C'mon now, "No Compromises" remember?

    They certainly could have made the unblock feature more discoverable. BTW I downloaded a few zipped files on my W7 box today and unzipped using the built-in stuff just fine. Maybe UAC level has something to do with it too.

  • The line must be drawn here ....

    @cbae: Squint really hard and you'll see I referred to cases where W8 was "good" and "great". Please show enough restraint to judge me on the full context of what I said rather than just the part that lends to your point.

    @elmer: No doubt about that. "Windows 8 - The I Don't Give a F* About the Desktop Edition". I suspect consumers who choose to buy a new desktop/laptop will be on the loosing end of things because it will ship with W8 and they won't think one way or another until it arrives. What's funny is that the "desktop/laptop disconnect" stems primarily from things they've removed and not a problem metro created. Hence my favorite expression for W8 - a thousand little cuts.