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DeathByVisualStudio DeathBy​VisualStudio If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
  • Tit for tat?

    , Maddus Mattus wrote

    @cbae: I stand corrected then, he's well educated in the wrong form of economics.


    Here goes again;

    It's like that movie Herbie posted. More consumers, more demand, more economy, more jobs.

    More tax, more regulation, less consumers, less demand, less economy, less jobs.

    We've heard that BS here in the U.S. from Republicans for over 30 years. Yes they go their less tax, less regulation but all it did was produce higher prices for services and bubble after bubble with the public paying for all of the fraud and greed.

    Looks like the Facebook stock debacle serves as a prime example of how great capitalism works.

  • ITC recommends Xbox 360 ban in the USA for violating Motorola's patents

    , cbae wrote


    Go make your own fishing rod. Are you looking for handouts?

    Nice pwnage.

  • Metro IE 10 - Flash lives! (maybe)

    , GoddersUK wrote


    I keep my plugins up to date. Frankly if other people don't that's their fault. No matter how much bad PR MS get/deserve if they are slow to release updates that won't help the little old granny who has had her bank account compromised (and no matter how quick MS can release updates, it won't be instant - they'll need to receive the code from Adobe and alter/repackage it for their implementation and then test it - that will take a finite amount of time).

    And it's perfectly possible for flash exploits to be launched from legitimate site e.g. via malicious adverts. I'm also not aware that MS actually screen compatibility view sites for exploits - I've always assumed the list is based solely in telemetry data (ie. lots of people use this site, but it doesn't work properly so we'll add it to the list). Beside (in IE9, at least) if you visit a website that doesn't display correctly a large balloon pops up telling you to enable compatibility view for that site.

    To be honest Microsofts approach to plugins in  Metro IE was rather like this cyclist's approach to safe cycling: http://youtu.be/EWEk4lj5LZs?t=17s

    Now it seems to be like this:http://youtu.be/O6oem0WRm1M?t=1m20s

    What's wrong with the middle ground? What was broken previously?

    (FTR I think this is far, far worse than no plugins at all, for the reasons I outline in my previous post) 


    Middle ground? Metro IE 10 is so far from middle ground it's not funny. Let's see:

    1. No favorites.
    2. No immediate back/forward history
    3. No accelerators
    4. No flash/SL support

    And that's just off the top of my head. The inclusion of some means to play video or audio formats that are predominant on the web today is the least that they could do. Toggling to the desktop is more painful than just switching context; depending on the web site you may need to re-login and scroll back down to the video you want to watch. Rinse & repeat and that gets old pretty quick.

    BTW, granny is the first person who will fail to update her plug-ins so in her case she is screwed no matter what.

  • MSDN - 502

    Portland, OR - works just fine.

  • Tit for tat?

    , Maddus Mattus wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio: agree, let's continue down the path we are going down today, more regulation, more government spending.

    Thread closed.

    I don't agree. I think we need:

    1. Better accountability for government expenditures.
    2. Better accountability for those that receive government services (a better system that gets people off of dependency and back on their feet rather than just leaving that to "the market").
    3. A fairer tax system so that those that get the most leverage out of our workforce and economy pay the most taxes (reinvesting in the system that provides them the means to make their truckloads of money rather than the gambling that is the stock market today).
    4. Plugging the holes in laws so they can actually be enforced in particular against those committing fraud in big business and government. Businesses (particularly hedge fund managers -- you know the bookies of the wealthy) always skirt the law to make a buck and government...well they make the laws to fit what works best for their own interests much of the time.
    5. A better corporate environment where CEOs get paid for real performance and not bonuses and golden parachutes for driving a company into the ground.
    6. A whopping investment in renewable resources by big business and government.* I for one would love the U.S. to off the dependencies we have on other countries for our energy. That would cut down on all of the wasted lives and money on war.
    7. A whopping investment in education so more talent can be brought to the stage to build a better tomorrow.*

    * Not a blank check but with specific goals in mind, accountability built in. We don't need the government buying $500 hammers and toilet seats.

  • Tit for tat?

    , Maddus Mattus wrote

    @Sven Groot: You do realize you just said the CC word?

    Let's just finish this before it gets started. Maddus, you're wrong. The End. Smiley

  • MSDN - 502

    My first attempt was terrible slow but it got there. Once cached it seemed to work pretty well. Probably a big whopping update. Looks way different than the last time I visited so many eons ago when they screwed it up with the "I'm 3 years old and I wanna program" design. I like the new look -- actual content is prominent.

  • Metro IE 10 - Flash lives! (maybe)

    , GoddersUK wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio:No Sad This is the worst possible outcome.

    Obviously I want Flash in my browser so the web isn't broken but I'm as keen for Flash to die as any man. Now, when flash does die, I won't be able to get rid of that security-hole-ridden browser-crashing PoS. And if updates have to come via MS, rather than Adobe, that's probably going to take too long and potentially lead to more of this kind of fiasco. And what happens when MS stop supporting it? (I have hideous memories of using computers running the MS VM for Java for years after it was discontinued)

    This means potentially unpatched flash installations are going to be sat on bajillions of computers around the world. And a flashback style attack on Windows would probably see more than just a few hundred thousand systems affected...


    Outside Apple's and Microsoft's control how many people actually keep their flash plug-ins up-to-date? There's no guarantees there either. Besides if Microsoft is as slow on getting updates out as Apple they deserve the bad PR.

    Also I think you missed this part:

    "So, Microsoft has extended the Internet Explorer Compatibility View list to include rules for popular Flash-based web sites that are known to meet certain criteria. That is, Flash is supported for only those popular but legacy web sites that need it. This feature is not broadly available for all sites"

    So you don't have to worry about all of those p0rn sites you visit as they won't be on the list. I'll just be happy that I don't have to "show in desktop" so much on my tablet.

    , spivonious wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio: I think it's cool that Adobe provided the code to MS. While a Flash-less IE10 was a good idea, it's a little ahead of its time. I think we'll see it for good in Windows 9. I hope this means they can "integrate" Silverlight as well. The whole experience of dropping to the desktop for certain sites is annoying.

    My thoughts exactly. I use "show in desktop" way, way, way too much on my tablet. If they want to keep eyes focused on the new metro side of W8 they better try and keep them there.

  • Metro IE 10 - Flash lives! (maybe)

    , JoshRoss wrote


    Don't you mean WindowsRT

    I thought it was WindowsFRRRT. Whew! What's that smell? Scared

  • Metro IE 10 - Flash lives! (maybe)

    , cbae wrote

    Speaking of plugins...

    Sieg heil? That's the first thing that comes to mind. Great branding Yahoo. That dude in the video is creepy.