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  • Convergence in action on Ubuntu

    I wish Microsoft would copy some of this for Windows 10. IMO it does a better job in providing a touch interface when in tablet/phone mode and traditional mouse + keyboard and windowing in desktop mode. What's nice is even in desktop mode "assisted touch" support is still there and doesn't compromise the desktop experience.

  • The new 2019

    , bondsbw wrote


    Same here.  I'm just starting to think, perhaps Microsoft really has no viable way to get from here to the end goal?  RT was the most likely path, breaking completely* from the desktop and supporting a new tablet ecosystem separate from the desktop.  But now it seems RT is dead.

    * by "completely", of course RT never completely removed the shackles of the desktop.  But feasibly a future iteration could have done so, just as Windows 10 for phones has no desktop environment.

    I think they do have the means to get to the end goal but they have to get it through their thick skulls that one-size-does-not-fit-all. Continuum so far has been a big disappointment as it doesn't really restore to touch modalities that W8.x had in W10. Instead it's the same old tune of compromise between mouse + keyboard and touch -- just going in the opposite direction this time..

    Looking at W10 on a phone it gets even worse. They are copying the worst parts of Google's material design -- moving away from gestures & swiping and towards tiny buttons that are inconveniently located (i.e. hamburger button.) I hate that aspect of Android and don't understand why Google thinks it's better. I don't see why both Microsoft and Google can't support both visual discovery (i.e. visible buttons) and touch gesture (i.e. swiping for menu) in the same UI/UX. The sweet spot would be that the user could take it all the way in one direction or the other via configuration: disable all of the touch gestures in favor of the visual discovery or disable all of the visual discover in favor of the touch gestures.

    WinRT and Windows Store apps are (were?) the future but Microsoft keeps screwing it up. The only thing that's not viable is Microsoft's thought process here. I just don't understand why it's so hard for them to see what they are doing?!?!?

    On a positive note I do like what they did for the desktop & mouse + keyboard users in W10. I also like how they are make Windows Store apps feel more like they belong on the desktop. I'd hope that would help spur adoption of WinRT and encourage Microsoft to keep extending it.

  • The new 2019

    , bondsbw wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio:  Unfortunately, nothing in that video reminded me of the desktop experience, and really felt different from W8-style touch as well.

    Perhaps the Courier was never actually killed, but just moved into a HoloLens-style secret room?

    I thought that's where Microsoft was trying to take us with W8 and that these videos were the evolution of what they started. With W8 they just put the cart before the horse and castrated their primary users in the process. Now they're taking W10 the other way (including on the phone) where the touch experience is compromised by desktop modalities. I never expected Microsoft to leap all the way to the experiences shown in these videos. Looking at the application interactions a lot of it will have to come from the apps themselves with the OS just providing the tools to facilitate. 

    I do hope aspects of the Courier rise from their ashes.

  • The new 2019

    Me likey! Now make it happen Microsoft. A frameless Surface 4 with W10's touch interface's desktop compromises removed. 

  • more on HoloLens API: ​Windows.​Mirage.​Hologram​Framework

    , bondsbw wrote

    @felix9:  Holographically FML... haha.

    But that's cool, I hope they choose a format more like YAML or even JSON.  I've lost my love of XML for defining UI.

    Done with XAML?

  • Hololens ideas.

    I'd like to see Microsoft use the HoloLens internally so they can see how far up their a$$ W10 is.

  • What the win 10 titlebar means for your phone

    I was hoping that W10 on the phone would leapfrog the touch experience of W10 on larger computing devices and show us they were headed in the right direction. Sadly Microsoft appears to be just as myopic as they were with W8 -- just in reverse. It looks like Bondsw was right; they've co-opted the touch experience with desktop elements and ruined it. Why oh why can't they get through their thick skulls that touch and mouse + keyboard have different needs for input. They can mash it up as much as they want and they'll continue to end up with a mediocre experience for both.

    So much for W10 being the pendulum swinging to "just right".

  • Standing Like A Super Hero ....

    No capes!

  • Blackhat - What's wrong with this picture?

    @Ian2: 5 years? With some roids and a good trainer it would only take a year tops. ;)

  • Windows 10 RTM in June?

    Neowin is reporting that the target for Windows 10 is June in order to get it in the channel for back to school shoppers. While I applaud Microsoft for finally waking up to the fact they've been missing the back-to-school crowd for decades with their RTM dates do you really think Windows 10 is ready to ship in 4+ months?

    I really hope that they aren't going to ship something that is buggy and incomplete and relying on their "rapid release" of software updates to fix it up somewhere down the road. Haven't they learned yet that a customer's first experience is crucial? They've dug a pretty big ditch to fill with the flop that was Windows 8 and it won't help if Windows 10 was poorly received because it was released to early.

    I'm also concerned that the bits that get left on the cutting room floor will be the tablet experience. I haven't tried Windows 10 on a tablet but from what I've read and seen it looks like it's pretty slanted toward the desktop and not necessarily as touch friendly as it could be.

    Again this is a "target" date presumably born from rumor and speculation so it may be all to do about nothing. I'm just curious on what you all think is the current state of Windows 10 and if it's shippable in 4+ months.