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  • Best of //build/

    , vesuvius wrote


    I think we need to be careful about pressing people too much for information about what they are doing, as this forum only goes quiet, while people avoid it because they might slip-up or unintentionally leak information about an incubation product.

    Sven, blowdart and the rest work on commercially sensitive work, Charles has already castigated a certain journalist with the surname Foley or misappropriating his statements.


  • Best of //build/

    , Sven Groot wrote


    I'm not working on it anymore, that's all I can say.

    So what are you working on? ;)

  • Android Apps to run on Windows Phone

    , Sven Groot wrote

    Finally I can say I work on this (the Android subsystem). :D

    Be sure to check out tomorrow's session about Project Astoria, it should answer some of your questions. :)

    Congrats Sven! This sounds pretty sweet. Can't wait to try porting our Android app. We use a lot of the device hardware so that will be interesting.

  • Free WiFi and Coffee at StarBucks

    I've been getting free cappuccinos from Starbucks for years via the gift card and smartphone app. You just have to setup a membership, assign a gift card, and start accumulating stars (one per drink or food item). They have specials where you can earn more stars by purchasing specific items during specific dates but I don't chase any of that crap -- just get my free cappuccinos when they come due. Not the best coffee but they are everywhere.

    One small tip: you have to ask for you "reward". They won't automatically give you a free coffee without you specifying you want them to use your "reward". The smartphone app shows you when a reward has been earned and is available to "spend". It's actually a good thing as you can apply the "reward" against a specific item in your purchases rather than them giving you the cheapest item for free.

  • asp.net V5 will there also be a .Net V5 release coming?

    , bondsbw wrote


    Unless I misunderstood, Microsoft will continue to release something that is very similar to the traditional .NET installer

    for now...

  • These Windows 10 ​adware/prel​oader patches are packaged with important security updates. JUST WTF?!

    , wastingtime​withforums wrote


    Also, service packs can be uninstalled, this cannot. SPs don't change UIs (except for very slight changes), 8.1 did.

    Not true. There have been SPs that cannot be uninstalled.

    ALSO, 8.1 removed some key features:


    The Windows backup system is gone for example.

    Now imagine MS would offer up SP2 for Windows 7 which would remove backup and some other stuff (experience index) and add other features in return while adding/removing GUI elements all over the place.

    I seem to recall with XP there was an SP (SP2?) that changed some of the behavior of Windows and people were pissed. Based on that feedback Microsoft decided to split feature changes into "feature packs" and SPs would only contain bug fixes. With the W8.1 update Microsoft again responded to volumes of user feedback and released it as an all-inclusive "update" rather than a a "service pack" and a separate "feature pack". If they had split the "update" into separate packs it would have lead to mass confusion to the masses of users who wanted the fixes the update brought creating yet another wave of backlash.

    Could they have made the W8.1 update more "optional"? Sure but I think you're forgetting the huge outcry from users for Microsoft to fix W8. If they had made it a non-important update that users had to go into Windows update and select to install people would claim that Microsoft is begrudgingly providing the fixes and it really wants people to stick with W8. You know the idea that "people just need to spend time getting used to it".

    But yeah, this topic is done for good. We have to wait and see. There's nothing to discuss anymore until Windows 10 appears.

    Surprise us and be right for a change.

  • Would you like fries with that?

    And a super-size it while you're at it.

    I've said for some time now that Microsoft needs to be more that an "also-ran" when it comes to touch/mobile space. Microsoft had a lot of nice implementations of touch navigation in WPH7/8 (and even W8). IMO, the problem was not these implementation but rather:

    1. Rebooting the WP platform too many times.
    2. Lack of apps. (caused in part by #1)
    3. Missing phone features that competitors had for too long (with people making excuses for Microsoft like "The iPhone didn't have notifications when it first came out".) They tried to play catch-up here releasing update after update after update which only made WP look that much more incomplete and problematic.

    So what's changing? 

    1. Universal Apps unify Windows/Windows Phone apps. That is a great move IMO.
    2. They remove the "obstacle" of a unique UI to spur application development. WTF?!?!?

    So how does having the same UI help you sell against a competing platform when you lack app support (lack of apps and/or apps that lag behind other platforms)? As for developers they'll still need to create Windows specific applications so having a hamburger menu like Android doesn't help much there.

    I think Microsoft should try two things:

    1. Buy Xamerin, incorporate it into Visual Studio Community Edition, and provide app shops a superior method for targeting apps for iOS, Android, Xbox, Windows, and Windows Phone. 
    2. "Re-imagine" their touch UIs in this hamburger-centric world. For example: Include the hamburger menu but also allow its activation by swiping from the left. Android does this in many applications today, They could also keep the panoramas but add a "compact" mode that treats them more like traditional tabs. The same content swipe left/right action could continue to work as it does today or in "compact" mode would switch between the tabs as a whole (like flipping pages).

    I just don't understand why they always seem to be cutting off their nose to spite their face.

  • These Windows 10 ​adware/prel​oader patches are packaged with important security updates. JUST WTF?!

    The only WTF thing here is you trolling on Microsoft updating the Windows Update client. Microsoft has updated the Windows Update client before for upcoming Windows SPs and releases. This is no different.

    As for the "nag" screen I think that's actually a great idea. Microsoft is just making sure that people are aware of the availability of the free upgrade to W10. Being that the upgrade will only be free for the first year it's beneficial to those non-techies who aren't paying attention to that fact. Had they not provided the nag screen people would complain that they didn't know the upgrade was free and after the offer expired there would be nothing but hate on Microsoft for it. 

  • There is no escape from the suck-train!

    , bondsbw wrote


    If we can all agree to keep on topic, then I think we would be more civilized and probably find that we agree on a lot more than not.

    I agree but the civility argument has also been used to dismiss valid points time and time again. I'm not saying you're doing with this post. I am saying that "civility" or "you're arguing it wrong" are used to dismiss a valid point it only serves to fuel the fire and is just as pointless as someone's mile long rant.

    A lot of the time we (all of us) go round and round here because no one wants to provide any validation whatsoever of the other guys' points even when they're so obviously correct. That's when I find myself repeating points -- as if rephrasing or adding more detail would provide the missing piece that would cause the detractors' to finally understand.

    Sure there are people hear who just like to argue -- on both sides of the spectrum -- but I think if we all tried harder to recognize and acknowledge the other guy's opinion things would be much more civil.



  • There is no escape from the suck-train!

    , kettch wrote

    This thread seems to crop up every few months with the same basic structure, and different key words.

    It's not because "the sky is falling"; it's because Microsoft keeps screwing up Windows, Windows Phone, etc. But of course ignorance is bliss...