Please give the VC team a break. They too, were misguided for 10 years as we - Microsoft -assumed .NET would be everything and everywhere and everyone would develop in C#. Can they have some time to catch up?
@Charles, you know I really, really would like to believe in that but first:
1. Actions speak louder than any voice - where is C++ at MS? What are the plans for C++ at MS? Do we as devs know anything about it? The only thing we know is that you (MS) don't care about C++ and C++ community (because of the actions MS took, not because what MS says)
2. Would it be fair to say that now MS assumes everyone will develop in C++/CX? Because mr sutter says it's great, so surely it must be, mustn't? O my God...
3. Would it be fair to say that if you come to someone's country you behave according to this country rules, not the one from your homeland? C++ isn't your world/country yet you treat it as if it was invented/owned by you. How arrogant is that?
Enough is enough. Too many times MS threated C++ community like not even second class citizens. Arrogant, dismissive attitude was the way to go. Even few weeks ago, what was it? C++ renaissance? Why didn't you play straight? Why did you pretend, hiding behind names (C++). What does it says about your attitude towards C++ and C++ community? And as for Diegum expanation for lack of C++11 support in VS2012 - because we didn't know you (developers) want that. How arrogant, insulting is this? Why can't you (MS) get it that people are not sheeple?
Charles, on a personal note, I really have nothing against you. I know that we've had little "incident" in the past but it's a past. I think that you are ok guy. I also have a weak spot for a native americans since childhood (would you believe that my wife's sister is married to a Blackfoot and they live here in Ireland few years now?). But what I'm driving at is that (if you really care about C++) you are in a very unfortunate position that you work for a company which interest you obliged to protect and those interests are nowhere near yours and ours, and you just simply cannot say what the things really look like. We on the contrary can. From the perpective of C++ community MS (with mr sutter as a main C++ architect) betrayed this language and this community - once again. As simple as that. And as long as this won't be fixed no words, no amount of beer, no plastic beads will bring happines and good relationship between our community and the company you work for.
As a sidenote w/r to VS - I personally stopped using it at home shortly after build conference, and judging by how things are going for this once great IDE won't be using it in the near future.