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  • These Windows 10 ​adware/prel​oader patches are packaged with important security updates. JUST WTF?!

    , vesuvius wrote


    Microsoft forced the world to move from 8 to 8.1, and the world did not complain (neither did you at the time)

    If they decide to force everyone to move to Windows 10, 99.99% of people won't complain. In life you have to accept that some people will never come round to progress, you clearly are the 0.01% of people that don't want the upgrade, so rather than post in this forum, open your PC and remove the network interface card or wait for the workarounds as Windows always let you control issues like this.

    You are complaining that you don't like the music on a radio station that millions enjoy, change radio stations or use another OS, but please stop sounding like a broken record.

    If Microsoft forced a new operating system onto their customers' machines, they would probably spend the next decade in court. 

    That's one reason it will never happen. 

  • These Windows 10 ​adware/prel​oader patches are packaged with important security updates. JUST WTF?!

    , PeterF wrote

    I get the impression that you actually want no-one to use Windows, so please be more clear on your agenda, tell us what are you really want us to use, instead of making an elephant out of each mosquito in an attempt to get what you want, to me it sounds like a broken record though...

    I think he wants people to carry on using Windows, but he's going about it in the wrong way.  

    He repeats the same message without any regard for anyone who might be a little tired of seeing it.

    He starts with an update on the latest Windows fiasco, but during the course of the update, he throws in loads  of extra stuff that has nothing to do with it.

    And the irony of this is totally lost on him. 




  • These Windows 10 ​adware/prel​oader patches are packaged with important security updates. JUST WTF?!


    Your previous predictions bordered on clairvoyance. 

    But I'm just not seeing what the problem is here. 

    You say that Microsoft is going to force upgrades? When have they ever done this?  Aside from the fact that they didn't sell you the machine so it would illegal for them to force such a upgrade, it would be astonishingly stupid from a trust perspective. 

    And I'm speaking as someone who rarely runs Windows. 

  • There is no escape from the suck-train!

    , NoelCarboni wrote


    I'm not saying security vulnerability fixes are a bad thing, but you're the victim of hype if you think you can no longer do secure operations with your computer the second you stop accepting updates.

    You think that Microsoft is going to force Windows10 onto your machine, so I could just as easily say you're the victim of paranoia. 

    What's worse is that you appear to be recommending that people stop accepting security fixes from Microsoft. What if they discover a bug that allows someone to take plunder your machine through a browser? What about updates to blacklisted sites? 

  • There is no escape from the suck-train!

    , evildictait​or wrote


    Sure. But if you turn off security updates, you better stop doing online banking, or your credit card number will go missing pretty soon afterwards.

    Because the easiest way to deal with peeling wallpaper is to demolish the house. 

  • There is no escape from the suck-train!

    , NoelCarboni wrote

    It seems to me we all have a vested interest in the success of Windows - well, at least those of us who use a computer for more than just a content delivery mechanism.  The purely casual folks will likely already have gravitated to Apple anyway, since their experience with dumbed-down delivery has been superior for a long time.

    Last time I looked, the vast majority of desktop/laptop machines were still running Windows. I'm also not so sure about Apple kit just being used for content delivery. Most of the sysadmins and developers I come across use Macs as their preferred machines, which I think is a side effect of a movement away from native Windows development in general.

    Even incredibly naïve folks who claim Microsoft wouldn't think of installing a whole new version of your OS without prompting you would be wise to reconfigure Windows Update in every way known to prompt before installing.  

    Okay, let's look carefully at this.

    What you're saying is that Microsoft – MICROSOFT – would simply force a completely new OS onto every computer running Windows7 – with no regard for performance or compatibility or  good manners – and not expect to go bust overnight.

    That makes no sense.

  • There is no escape from the suck-train!


    It seems to me that you and WastingTime are trying to reinforce one argument with another one which happens to be completely unrelated.

    Whether or not MS is installing malware or crapware has nothing to do with whether or not you like Windows 10.

    Perhaps we stick to the topic of this thread, without drifting off into a quagmire of Windows dislikes (which I think have been covered in countless threads on this increasingly dull forum).

    I'm looking on my Mac screen. There is an icon telling me that I have one new upgrade for OSX. I can choose to upgrade or I can choose not to.

    Now can someone tell me how this differs from what Microsoft is doing. Are you saying that when Wndows10 is released, Microsoft will just dump it onto millions of machines without asking?

    And before you start, 'Because I don't like Windows 10' is not an answer.

  • There is no escape from the suck-train!

    I'm a bit confused. What is the problem here?

    As far as I can tell, this does not force you to install anything. It's just a notifier. It doesn't even qualify as crapware. 


  • Why Type-C USB connector may not make a good primary power connector (can be fixed though)

    Most people work in a reasonably lit room so I'm not sure being able to connect in the dark is such a big problem. 

    A bigger issue is tripping over the cable. The MagSafe connector would pop  loose. The USB-C will probably drag your shiny gold MacBook on to the floor. 

  • Lenovo and Crapware (or worse)

    , vesuvius wrote

    Lenovo have also released a tool to remove superfish.

    I guess Apple devices are best because you never have hardware manufacturers bundling software suites. I know WinRT/Windows Runtime would be equivalent through the Windows Store where everything is certified but having a command line instruction or a place in Windows you can just "install core OS" would be a brilliant feature.

    Apple laptops are manufactured in the same factories as Lenovo laptops and Asus laptops, and just about any other laptop. Unless you manufacture the devices yourself then there is no way to be 100% sure what goes on the machines.

    Case in point:


    And my favourite line:

    As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it.

    Windows is what Windows is. The problem is that they didn't have a tight enough leash on their manufacturing partners.

    This is, of course, different to the Lenovo case who appear to have installed this crap deliberately, but the point is that there are no guarantees.