@bondsbw:Yes that is the main frustration. It is not that a research group develops something for many years which can be useful. It is the disconnect that the guy running the research is not selling the idea and application of the research to the company so it can be used. It probably is that the leaders of Microsoft are not sure what is needed or what to do. It is always safer to do nothing than to take risk on an idea. I feel sorry for all the researchers who I feel wasted their time on an experiment that gets tabled. Yes we all learn something but a company like Microsoft in a competitive field has to make the best of it's investments. I am not seeing an improvement in offerings to what I do which is Desktop Engineering Applications. In fact, I would argue it is getting worse. I now know it is not a resource problem because resources are being wasted. I really cannot tell what direction they are going. Bring out Silverlight, get everyone excited about it, and kill it off. Bring out .NET with C#, move developers from MFC and C++ to new technology for Desktop Applications. A couple years later tell everyone native is the way to go and go back to C++ and MFC. Would be better to native compile C# but I have not seen much in that direction. I wont even mention mistakes like Windows 8 and that Windows 10 is not enough to move off of Windows 7. It all points to weak Leadership with no long term vision.
@TheTraveler: Yes I agree. It is only an opinion and I know a lot of people enjoy his posts. I like some of them too but I always work in product development and finishing saleable products is always the goal for me. Some people enjoy experimentation and theories and I get that. Research does eventually have to pay off and it seems Microsoft needs to finish some things. I really would like to see the C# native compiler be released for all applications and not just UWP.
I get tired of reading his blogs and I am not interested in someone who cannot produce a deliverable product. Put a useful product to your name as an accomplishment and I will respect your ideas more. Anders Hejlsberg developed Pascal and C# and he gets my respect. He made a difference to developers lives. Joe Duffy just talks ideas and technology that never sees the light because it is not practical and useful. If Joe gets Midori to be useful or can get something that makes Microsoft money so his research can justify his liability that would allow me to respect his thoughts. If he wants to be a writer that's fine, just don't pretend to be a product developer. Research with no practical outcome should be done at a university. Microsoft wasted time and money and we still have many missing pieces for windows 10, apps, and future desktop development. I know this opinion is a little harsh but I think Microsoft needs to deliver more in terms of technologies that are useful for application development.
The engineers are responsible. They are responsible for making a good diesel engine that performs great but pollutes maybe a little too much. So to make the customer happy they just put in a small feature to change operational parameters when pollution testing is happening. The result of them being caught will cause the small diesels to die out because the new ones will suck in performance and nobody will buy them. I think the VW stock holder will suffer and the engineers will be fired. They will find a good position in government or wall street because that type of out of the box thinking is what the world needs.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:27AM
Microsoft has skype and my desktop makes phone calls with video if I choose just fine. So functionality is already in both. Will my phone ever be able to do intense gaming with virtual reality? I don't see that happening for a while. As computers get more powerful, more power hungry games (cpu/graphics) come along. Also, I like multiple devices including my Band, phone, laptop, and desktop. Windows 8/10 did on nice job with moving settings and storing common docs etc.
Dec 15, 2015 at 5:24AM
@Ian2: Yeah my phone, in an indirect way, runs all the powerful apps on my desktop. Still not perfect but another nice feature if I don't have my laptop which remotes in all the time.
Dec 15, 2015 at 4:38AM
Actually, you're displaying the same lack of strategic thinking that has brought Microsoft to the position it finds itself in today.
"No apps! Panic! Quick! Run everyone else's! That was such a blinding win for OS/2 I have no idea why we didn't think of it before!"
The lack of apps is a symptom of low sales; it isn't the cause. Here are a few possible causes off the top of my head:
- Porting all your best apps to other platforms and then neglecting the home platform.
- Making stupid decisions for short-term savings and then having to back them out a week later.
- Your ex-CEO publicly undermining the new guy.
- Wasting resources running apps Android/iOS apps on your own platform. This gives the impression your OS is already on life support.
The problem is Microsoft, not the platform.
But if you must go the Android route, then Bass is probably right: you may as well just dump Windows Phone, port everything to Android and have done with it.
See this is where you don't get it. I am not moving off of Windows (10, or 7) for my development and projects. Where applicable I also support Android or iOS. My problem is others do not do the same. I don't control this part of problem so there is nothing I can do to get an Android or iOs only app to work on a windows phone. I should mention that there are emulators that work on the desktop/laptop and allow these Android apps to run which does help. Without windows phone getting market share, it does not make sense to port windows apps to universal apps. Why? They work well on the desktop already and UWP is a step backwards just to get an app to run on a phone (or xbox). I think if Microsoft could make UWP apps the best development experience, they could gain traction because I would see it as a application improvement and gain the benefit of running in many places like the phone. Saying this UWP would have to run on windows 7 since I have a lot of users still there. The problems are complicated as to Microsoft achieving its goals.
Dec 14, 2015 at 3:04PM
Ray7 and MasterPi, I agree that what you both stated would be ideal. It would be nice to submit all the apps I want that are not available on windows phone to Microsoft and have them talk to the respective developer/company and get a windows 10 native application on it. In the interim what is the solution? Lets all wait till everything gets done on Windows? I just don't see this happening as every month/year that goes by windows phone falls further behind. I hope I am wrong on this. Android emulation would be a Band-Aid for a short term solution and would not hurt windows 10 development like you all think. The other hope would be a killer app/novelty that would make everyone want a windows 10 phone.