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  • the new metro apps are pretty lame...

    , figuerres wrote

     

    they should have not made the july promise to release windows 10, they should have given it another 2 months and fixed a lot of stuff.

    Agreed.

    Considering this didn't happen, at least, I hope these things are fixed and released soon.  I'm just wondering when these insider features are actually going to make it to everyone.

  • Faulty update time! (And again, W10..)

    @cheong:  That blog never suggested that non-enterprise users are beta testers.  This is what it's really about (and, notably, the sentence that WTWF conveniently left out that is directly between the two sentences he quoted):

    This gives IT departments' time to start validating updates in their environments the day changes are shipped broadly to consumers, or in some cases earlier, if they have users enrolled in the Windows Insider Program.

    The point of enterprise users getting updates later is to ensure that companies have adequate time to test their internal software against new feature builds.  Often this software gets tested against new OS feature updates much later than off-the-shelf software (traditionally, these come during service packs and new OS versions).

    None of that is to say whether it's good or bad that Home edition users can't opt-out of updates.  I'm only defending the process where enterprise users are allowed to lag behind.

  • Faulty update time! (And again, W10..)

    , cheong wrote

    treat paying customers as beta testers

    1. That's not what they're doing.  W10 Home is not a beta test.  The Insider program is explicitly the beta test program.
    2. W10 Enterprise is being sold as time-proven technology.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
    3. I'd be surprised to find a law against allowing you to treat paying customers as beta testers.  That would kill the Insider program, as well as most beta testing that has ever been performed on any software.
  • Faulty update time! (And again, W10..)

    @wastingtimewithforums:  I don't see anything wrong with validating new features to enterprise software through consumer channels first.  Enterprises require more stability than consumers, and for good reason. They tend to work with a lot more sensitive data for many more people.  They tend to be targeted more as the reward for a successful breach is much higher.

  • Windows 10 Aero

    Transparency and blur are already part of Windows 10.  The Taskbar and Start menu both include a small bit of each.

    As for window title bars and such, the last I heard was that they didn't do it because UWP apps are able to fully customize the title bar area (think Netflix making its title bar red, or Edge and Chrome putting tabs in the title bar space).  I also heard they were investigating the possibility of doing something in that area, but it probably involves balancing user requests for transparent title bars with developer requests to fully customize that area.

    EDIT:  Looks like a new Insider build just dropped and it appears to support changes to colors in title bars and other aspects of the system.

  • Barry's angry

    "How many times do I have to tell these people... personal attacks are a path straight to thread closure."

  • Stupid "Newb" Question

    You can put your Twitter ID, or leave it blank.

  • More Edge annoyances

    , cbae wrote

    It almost seems like Microsoft was trying to make an exact copy of Chrome.

    Can you blame them?

  • So how did the Win10 install go for you?

    @cheong:  The Windows Calculator app comes with Windows 10.  Start button + typing "calc" brought it up as the first hit.

  • So how did the Win10 install go for you?

    Overall pretty terrible.

    • My MacBook Pro had the preview.  I decided to wipe and reinstall clean.  It screwed up my partition table, which was still intact but somehow kept everything from booting.  I had also deleted my recovery partition... oops.  It took a couple of days and using OS X internet recovery, various disk partitioning tools on different several operating systems booting via flash drive.  Finally I got OS X booting again, then wiped Bootcamp, redid that, and finally got it installed.  THEN it wouldn't activate.  So I had to redo it again but this time installing 8.1 first and then upgrading, and then wiping again to get the clean install.
    • My //BUILD 2011 tablet had the preview as well.  I wiped and reinstalled that one.  But like my MacBook Pro, it won't activate.  And I can't get it to boot a Windows 8/8.1 installer USB drive, or even the original Windows 8 dev preview, so I'm still on the non-activated copy.
    • My Windows 7 virtual machine for work upgraded perfectly.

    All of that is not to mention, the media creation tool failed several times to create the bootable USB flash drive.  I decided to use the ISO option and build the flash drive from that.

    1 out of 3 worked correctly without hassle.  2 out of 3 eventually got activated.  All 3 have at least a non-activated copy.